From dfischer at usol.com  Mon Sep  6 16:10:52 2010
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 16:10:52 -0400
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Wondering About The Wolf?
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Hi All,

I am wondering what has become of my fried BoB - AKA "wolfman"? Has he 
posted here in the past eight months? If so, I guessed I missed it. Have any 
of you heard from him directly or seen a post by him here?

Thanks!

Duane, W8DBF

Duane Fischer, W8DBF - WPE8CXO
E-Mail: dfischer at usol.com
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From wolfbob at csnsys.com  Mon Sep  6 16:30:56 2010
From: wolfbob at csnsys.com (wolfbob)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:30:56 -0700
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Wondering About The Wolf?
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I'm still around...

WBob

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>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am wondering what has become of my fried BoB - AKA "wolfman"? Has he
> posted here in the past eight months? If so, I guessed I missed it. Have 
> any
> of you heard from him directly or seen a post by him here?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Duane, W8DBF
>
> Duane Fischer, W8DBF - WPE8CXO
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From dfischer at usol.com  Thu Sep  9 12:10:40 2010
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:10:40 -0400
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Wondering About The Wolf?
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Delighted to hear it Bob! I will either write or call you soon, a day or 
two.

DBF

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> I'm still around...
>
> WBob
>
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> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
> To: <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 1:10 PM
> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Wondering About The Wolf?
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am wondering what has become of my fried BoB - AKA "wolfman"? Has he
>> posted here in the past eight months? If so, I guessed I missed it. Have
>> any
>> of you heard from him directly or seen a post by him here?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Duane, W8DBF
>>
>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF - WPE8CXO
>> E-Mail: dfischer at usol.com
>> Hallicrafters web site: www.w9wze.net
>> HHRP web site: hhrp.w9wze.net
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From dfischer at usol.com  Thu Sep 16 16:29:15 2010
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:29:15 -0400
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Who Is On The Keyboard?
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Hi All,

I was just listening to some of the fabulous recordings done by the late 
Marty Robbins. I know that he had an incredible band that worked with him, 
but when he was recording in the studio who was on the piano? It sounds a 
lot like the late Floyd Cramer. Was it?

What song was I listening to? Thought you would never ask! (LOL) The title 
is something like "Lord This Time You Gave Me A Mountain". After the as 
close to dead without being dead stroke that felled me last December 27th, 
and what I have had to do recover my body functions so that I could live in 
my house alone, I wanted to listen to that particular song today.

I also played "Don't Worry About Me" three, maybe it was five?, times! Now 
what did they do to that guitar to make it sound so different? It sounds 
like a reverb trick + what?

Then there is the bass guitar. How do they make it sound so sharp, almost a 
snap to the notes? Somebody told me years ago that it was done using paper 
wound around certain strings.

Thanks for the insights!

Duane, W8DBF

Duane Fischer, W8DBF - WPE8CXO
E-Mail: dfischer at usol.com
Hallicrafters web site: www.w9wze.net
HHRP web site: hhrp.w9wze.net


From ranickel at comcast.net  Thu Sep 16 19:06:03 2010
From: ranickel at comcast.net (Robert Nickels)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:06:03 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Who Is On The Keyboard?
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  On 9/16/2010 3:29 PM, Duane Fischer, W8DBF wrote:
>   It sounds a lot like the late Floyd Cramer. Was it?
Hi Duane,

Interesting question! I did some searching and found other instances 
where Floyd Cramer definitely played on Marty Robbins songs, but haven't 
been able to confirm that he was on "It's a Sin". Incidentally, Marty 
wrote the song you were listening to, "You gave me a Mountain", although 
he never released it as a single. Elvis did, and Frankie Laine took it 
to #1 on the Easy Listening chart and #24 on the Hot 100 in early 1969. 
Not bad for a 55 year old singer in the age of rock!

To answer your question, I was surprised to find (on Facebook of all 
places) a complete list of every Marty Robbins recording session, with 
details of time, musicians who performed, and which songs were recorded 
in each. It is a huge list that can be found here:
http://ko-kr.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=220133323733&topic=13531 Floyd 
Cramer is listed on several sessions in the early sixties, as per part 1 
of this guys list.

The first time your song was recorded was\ May 9, 1966, but no musicians 
were identified. The song was recorded again three years later, and this 
is probably the version that appears on your 1969 LP. That was on 
February 19, 1969 at Columbia Recording Studio, 804 16th Ave. South, 
Nashville 3, TN The Producer was Bob Johnston. but alas, the only other 
comment is " Marty Robbins (unknown musicians.)"

So I can't say for sure who it was, but by the late sixties Floyd Cramer 
would have been pretty deeply involved with RCA and Marty was with 
Columbia. So here's my educated guess: Looking at other recording 
sessions in the same time period, the name Bill Purcell appears 
freqently, and I'll bet that he's the man at the keyboard. There are few 
pianists I'd put in Floyd Cramer's league but Bill Purcell would be one 
of them. His "Our Winter Love" has to be one of the most beautiful songs 
of all time. And he's still around - according to Wikipedia, "Per Mr. 
Pursell, himself, as of August 2009, he has been working as a teacher at 
the Belmont University Music School for the last 28 years

The vast majority of the Marty Robbins sessions included the 
incomparable Grady Martin on guitar. He was the sound of "El Paso" and 
is also credited with inventing the fuzz guitar by accidentally plugging 
into the wrong amplifier channel, producing distortion. He along with 
Cramer, guitarist Hank Garland, bass player Bob Moore and other members 
of the "Nashville A Team" appear on most of the Robbins sessions. Which 
makes good sense, if you were Marty Robbins, you'd want and get the 
best! Just reading through the names on this list is like a who's-who of 
the music biz - Mitch Miller, Cy Zentner, Ray Conniff, Al Caiola, and a 
young guitar picker named Charlie Daniels on some of the last sessions.

We lost Marty in 1982, but he suffered the first of three heart attacks 
in 1968. A few months after recording the 1969 LP he was given only a 
year to live unless he underwent risky new surgery, and so Marty Robbins 
became the first person ever to have a triple coronary bypass operation. 
I found so much interesting stuff about Marty Robbins I'll just paste a 
summary in below - I'll bet there's at least one thing here that you 
didn't know!

73, Bob W9RAN



Born Martin David Robinson, September 26, 1925, in Glendale, AZ; died of 
a heart attack, December 8, 1982, in Nashville, TN; son of Jack Joe and 
Emma (Heckler) Robinson; married Marizona Baldwin, 1945; children: 
Ronnie (son), Janet.

Singer, songwriter, and guitarist. With K-Bar Cowboys, played in small 
clubs and on radio shows, AZ, late 1940s; host of local television show 
/Western Caravan/, c. 1950; solo recording artist and concert performer, 
1952-82. Film appearances include /Buffalo Gun/, 1962; /Ballad of a 
Gunfighter/, 1963; /Honkytonk Man/, 1982; /The Gun and the Gavel; The 
Badge of Marshal Brennan;/ and /Guns of a Stranger;/ star of syndicated 
television show /Marty Robbins?s Spotlight/, 1977. Raced stock cars on 
the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing (NASCAR) circuit, 
1960s and 1970s. Author of /Small Man/ (novel), 1966. /Military 
service:/ U.S. Navy, 1944-48.

*Selected awards:* Grammy awards for best country and western recording, 
1960, for ?El Paso,? and for best country song, 1970, for ?My Woman, My 
Woman, My Wife?; voted Man of the Decade, 1970, Academy of Country 
Music; NASCAR Rookie of the Southern 500, 1972; inducted into Nashville 
Songwriters Association Hall of Fame, 1975; Gold Trustees Award, 
National Country Hall of Fame, 1979; inducted into Country Music Hall of 
Fame, 1982.


From youngbob53 at msn.com  Fri Sep 17 14:47:13 2010
From: youngbob53 at msn.com (Bob Young)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:47:13 -0400
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Marty Robbins bass
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Hi Duane,
 
I'm not real familiar with Marty Robbins (yet) but thought being a bass player myself thought I let you know what I know about country music bass. There was a style during the 60's that was popular in Nashville called Tic Tac in which used two bass players, one playing upright bass which of course sounded deep and full, and another using a baritone guitar which was actually an early 6 string bass. The baritone player would play in unison usually in the same octave or sometimes one octave up along with the upright player using a pick and playing with a sharp guitar-like sound. The baritone would also play more connecting runs with the upright player usually sticking to fundamentals. The effect was a very deep but prominent bass sound, sounding like only bass bass player to most people. The first manufacturer to make these was Danelectro, Fender also makes them. A famous tune I can think of which starts with one is Dance Dance Dance by the beach Boys although the bass line is not tic tac. Many of the Everly Brothers Warner bros hits also included Tic Tac bass. Patsy Cline's work includes a lot of Tic Tac bass,
 
Bob Young
Analog MA

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> Then there is the bass guitar. How do they make it sound so sharp, almost a 
> snap to the notes? Somebody told me years ago that it was done using paper 
> wound around certain strings.
> 
> Thanks for the insights!
> 
> Duane, W8DBF
>  		 	   		  

From youngbob53 at msn.com  Sat Sep 18 12:31:14 2010
From: youngbob53 at msn.com (Bob Young)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:31:14 -0400
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Marty Robbins bass
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> > Then there is the bass guitar. How do they make it sound so sharp, almost a 

> > snap to the notes? Somebody told me years ago that it was done using paper 

> > wound around certain strings.

> > 

> > Thanks for the insights!

> > 

> > Duane, W8DBF

> >  		 	   		  
> 



Woops should have put this through my English translator before sending:

Bob Young
KB1OKL


> 
> Hi Duane,
>  
> I'm not real familiar with Marty Robbins (yet) but thought being a bass player myself thought I let you know what I know about country music bass. There was a style during the 60's that was popular in Nashville called Tic Tac in which used two bass players, one playing upright bass which of course sounded deep and full, and another using a baritone guitar which was actually an early 6 string bass. The baritone player would play in unison usually in the same octave or sometimes one octave up along with the upright player using a pick and playing with a sharp guitar-like sound. The baritone would also play more connecting runs with the upright player usually sticking to fundamentals. The effect was a very deep but prominent bass sound, sounding like only bass player to most people. The first manufacturer to make these was Danelectro, Fender still makes them. A famous tune I can think of which starts with one is Dance Dance Dance by the beach Boys although the bass line is not tic tac. Many of the Everly Brothers Warner bros hits also included Tic Tac bass. Patsy Cline's work includes a lot of Tic Tac bass,
>  
> Bob Young
> Analog MA
> 
> 
> 
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