From dfischer at usol.com  Tue Jan  8 23:53:36 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Tue Jan  8 23:51:35 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Using Slate For Sound Dispersion
Message-ID: <00b801c8527b$9a7f7b00$5fea1240@hpdc5100mt>



Hello All,

I have one James B. Lansing model 4320 Studio Monitor. What a big, 
beautiful, beast! It uses a slate lense as part of its sound dispersion 
structure. The vertical angle is 45 degrees and the horizontal angle is 120 
degrees. Can someone please explain to me how this heavy slate lens 
functions in the J.B.L. sound dispersion design?

If it is of value: The 95 pound cabinet has a 15 inch front firing woofer 
with a crossover to a horn at 800 Hz. There are two front ports for the 
woofer, one on either side of it.

Thank you!

Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com

HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net

HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

From dfischer at usol.com  Wed Jan  9 00:02:49 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Wed Jan  9 00:00:49 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Vinyl Albums Now Being Produced?
Message-ID: <00c201c8527c$e47bf390$5fea1240@hpdc5100mt>



Hi All,

I was "watching" a program on the "Science Channel" last week and they 
devoted half of the program to several companies that were currently 
producing 33 1/3 rpm vinyl albums. They did not name any of the companies or 
mention any studios.

The narration did make a solid point of clearly stating that some diehard 
vinyl album fans demand music on vinyl records and not on digital CDS. 
Hence, according to this program, quite a few major Artists were releasing 
their artistic musical talents on both 33 1/3 rpm vinyl albums and digital 
CDS.

The program went into considerable detail as to how the vinyl album goes 
from a backhoe bucket scoop cradle to a precision machined, trimmed and 
microscopically scrutinized album. Fascinating!

Do any of you know who the companies are that are producing these albums and 
where I could purchase them?

Where can I get a list of Artists currently available on new vinyl?

Thank you very much.


Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com

HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net

HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

From sdaitch at mor.ibb.gov  Wed Jan  9 06:36:17 2008
From: sdaitch at mor.ibb.gov (Sheldon Daitch)
Date: Wed Jan  9 06:37:56 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Vinyl Albums Now Being Produced?
In-Reply-To: <00c201c8527c$e47bf390$5fea1240@hpdc5100mt>
References: <00c201c8527c$e47bf390$5fea1240@hpdc5100mt>
Message-ID: <4784B1B1.5010800@mor.ibb.gov>

Duane,

I understand the idea of getting music releases on vinyl, but it occurs 
to me that unless the
music is kept in the analog domain from microphone to record, isn't the 
audio digitized at
some point anyway?

How do top end digital audio consoles compare with analog consoles?  How 
many records
today are recorded on analog tape mastering equipment?

Or is it the commerical CD is the weakest link in the digital process?

Just curious your thoughts on this.

73
Sheldon

Duane Fischer, W8DBF wrote:

>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was "watching" a program on the "Science Channel" last week and they 
> devoted half of the program to several companies that were currently 
> producing 33 1/3 rpm vinyl albums. They did not name any of the 
> companies or mention any studios.
>
> The narration did make a solid point of clearly stating that some 
> diehard vinyl album fans demand music on vinyl records and not on 
> digital CDS. Hence, according to this program, quite a few major 
> Artists were releasing their artistic musical talents on both 33 1/3 
> rpm vinyl albums and digital CDS.
>
> The program went into considerable detail as to how the vinyl album 
> goes from a backhoe bucket scoop cradle to a precision machined, 
> trimmed and microscopically scrutinized album. Fascinating!
>
> Do any of you know who the companies are that are producing these 
> albums and where I could purchase them?
>
> Where can I get a list of Artists currently available on new vinyl?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
> dfischer@usol.com
>
> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
> http://www.w9wze.net
>
> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
> hhrp.w9wze.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com ** 

From SalmonsM at missouri.edu  Wed Jan  9 11:10:27 2008
From: SalmonsM at missouri.edu (Salmons, Michael)
Date: Wed Jan  9 11:11:33 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Vinyl Albums Now Being Produced?
In-Reply-To: <00c201c8527c$e47bf390$5fea1240@hpdc5100mt>
References: <00c201c8527c$e47bf390$5fea1240@hpdc5100mt>
Message-ID: <8D7FCB83343F2240841B94F0AD84019703083994@UM-XMAIL07.um.umsystem.edu>

Duane,

Here's a site devoted to NEW vinyl releases.

http://vinylmatters.com

You'll find a lot of re-released stuff, of course. Labels like Sundazed
have made their reputation re-releasing titles of nostalgic interest.

But you'll also find a lot of new stuff, like the Beatles' "Love" record
and Paul McCartney's Chaos and Creation in the Backyard. I don't know if
Starbucks has released Memory Almost Full on vinyl. I have to say, my
instinct says no.

My wife worked for many years in a local record store. I still patronize
that and a couple other record stores where I live. My perception is
most major labels have never stopped releasing some small amount of
vinyl for the hardcore market. Most, but not all, new vinyl seem to be
artists that appeal to fans of classic rock and jazz- so the Beatles
have always had some vinyl in print. There may very well have been
lapses, I'm not omniscient. Niche labels like Blue Note, as far as I can
tell, have never stopped releasing high quality vinyl. There are
independent labels that continue to release vinyl, some of their
releases are vinyl only. Mostly music geared for younger audiences,
which seems to be the source of the recent resurgence of interest in
vinyl, especially the 45 market (did you know there was a 45 market?!
That surprised me!)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: vintage-audio-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:vintage-audio-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Duane
Fischer, W8DBF
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:03 PM
To: vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Vinyl Albums Now Being Produced?



Hi All,

I was "watching" a program on the "Science Channel" last week and they 
devoted half of the program to several companies that were currently 
producing 33 1/3 rpm vinyl albums. They did not name any of the
companies or 
mention any studios.

The narration did make a solid point of clearly stating that some
diehard 
vinyl album fans demand music on vinyl records and not on digital CDS. 
Hence, according to this program, quite a few major Artists were
releasing 
their artistic musical talents on both 33 1/3 rpm vinyl albums and
digital 
CDS.

The program went into considerable detail as to how the vinyl album goes

from a backhoe bucket scoop cradle to a precision machined, trimmed and 
microscopically scrutinized album. Fascinating!

Do any of you know who the companies are that are producing these albums
and 
where I could purchase them?

Where can I get a list of Artists currently available on new vinyl?

Thank you very much.


Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com

HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net

HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

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From dfischer at usol.com  Wed Jan  9 11:27:28 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Wed Jan  9 11:25:31 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Vinyl Albums Now Being Produced?
References: <00c201c8527c$e47bf390$5fea1240@hpdc5100mt>
	<4784B1B1.5010800@mor.ibb.gov>
Message-ID: <002501c852dc$899d9db0$6cea1240@hpdc5100mt>

Hello Sheldon,

The program did not deal with the studio sessions, just creating the Master 
that the vinyl disks are pressed from.

There are studios out there that still utilize the 15 IPS tape machines and 
the analog technology. Several audio engineers have told me that it is still 
all analog right up through the final mix and then converted to digital.  So 
there is still an analog product available, depending on the studio.

Here is what I can tell you from my own work Sheldon.

The vinyl album source sent directly to a CDR deck yields a poor quality 
product overall. I do not use computers in my remastering. Everytime you 
copy, or filter, another generation occurs. This degrades the quality. 
Especially with digital as it has less data to start with.

It is no secret that computers add their own noise to the recording, so all 
of that has to be filtered back out.

I record from turntable direct to a studio grade DAT deck. I use only what 
is called "emphasis". This removes high frequency noise, but does not affect 
vocals or instruments! There is no dulling of the highs as is common with 
Dolby.

All of this is done in the analog mode.

I then send the finished recording to the CDR deck and monitor the signal 
just as it is recorded. It is now converted to digital and burned to the 
'music' CD.

Since all the pause between track times, track ID codes etc. are done by the 
DAT, the CDR deck simply copies them. The final CD works perfectly.

Several on this list have heard my work and know that it is good Sheldon. I 
have some vinyl to CD that I defy any listener to identify as not being 
commercially produced. Doing it right takes time, a lot of patience, perfect 
timing and a familiarity with each song recorded. The fade in and fade out 
timing demands that you know the song so as to not clip off the starting 
notes or fade out the trailing notes!

What I produce from vinyl to CD is superior to it being done on a computer. 
You can easily hear the difference. Naturally the original vinyl source 
being in new condition helps a lot too!

I just listened to the new release of a nationally known southern gospel 
quartet. It was all digitally done. Maybe the engineer who did the work was 
not used to the digital equipment, maybe he simply did poor work, but the 
final product is poor. The individual vocalists are not balanced for four 
part harmony, when the Bass singer is featured it sounds as if he is two 
feet back from the mike, the Baritone? Well he is in there somewhere!

Digital simply sounds thin and lacks the depth and warmth that good music 
has always had.

I can not totally fault the digital equipment, as for all I know the poor 
quality is due to an inexperienced or inept audio engineer using it. Maybe 
both.

Since the public today is willing to accept a lower grade of quality on 
almost all products Sheldon it is no surprise that the music industry is 
also afflicted.

If you desire I will send you several CDS that I remastered from vinyl and 
you can be your own judge.


Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sheldon Daitch" <sdaitch@mor.ibb.gov>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
<vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re Vinyl Albums Now Being Produced?


> Duane,
>
> I understand the idea of getting music releases on vinyl, but it occurs to 
> me that unless the
> music is kept in the analog domain from microphone to record, isn't the 
> audio digitized at
> some point anyway?
>
> How do top end digital audio consoles compare with analog consoles?  How 
> many records
> today are recorded on analog tape mastering equipment?
>
> Or is it the commerical CD is the weakest link in the digital process?
>
> Just curious your thoughts on this.
>
> 73
> Sheldon
>
> Duane Fischer, W8DBF wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was "watching" a program on the "Science Channel" last week and they 
>> devoted half of the program to several companies that were currently 
>> producing 33 1/3 rpm vinyl albums. They did not name any of the companies 
>> or mention any studios.
>>
>> The narration did make a solid point of clearly stating that some diehard 
>> vinyl album fans demand music on vinyl records and not on digital CDS. 
>> Hence, according to this program, quite a few major Artists were 
>> releasing their artistic musical talents on both 33 1/3 rpm vinyl albums 
>> and digital CDS.
>>
>> The program went into considerable detail as to how the vinyl album goes 
>> from a backhoe bucket scoop cradle to a precision machined, trimmed and 
>> microscopically scrutinized album. Fascinating!
>>
>> Do any of you know who the companies are that are producing these albums 
>> and where I could purchase them?
>>
>> Where can I get a list of Artists currently available on new vinyl?
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> dfischer@usol.com
>>
>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> http://www.w9wze.net
>>
>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dfischer at usol.com  Wed Jan 23 12:38:45 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Wed Jan 23 12:39:14 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
Message-ID: <006801c85de6$fe721610$a1ea1240@hpdc5100mt>



Hi All,

Kind of - sort of, but not technically vintage, yet! But I know not where 
else to ask.

If you can find a copy of the manual for the Sony ZA5 ES DAT deck on-line, 
perhaps you can help me.

There is the word "OVER" appearing on the digital display in red. It is 
followed by numbers from two to sixty. Based on what was described to me, I 
think those numbers are decibels.

Everything works just as it should. The recording level is not too high, the 
playback level shows slightly less than the source in strength etc.

I need one of you to find what this message, which 'appears' to be supposed 
to be in red, actually is all about.

I am sure all of you know how difficult it is to deduce what some to the 
digital displays say, and me having to use readers who are not into audio 
makes it even more complex.

Since it is in red, I am concerned.

Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.


Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

From w7ksg at juno.com  Wed Jan 23 12:49:30 2008
From: w7ksg at juno.com (J. Allen Call)
Date: Wed Jan 23 12:54:21 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
Message-ID: <20080123.104930.1988.0.w7ksg@juno.com>

Why don't you just call SONY?  They have a customer HELP line.  It is  1-
800-282 2848.

J
W7KSG
From wolfbob at csnsys.com  Wed Jan 23 12:52:21 2008
From: wolfbob at csnsys.com (wolfbob)
Date: Wed Jan 23 12:54:58 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
References: <006801c85de6$fe721610$a1ea1240@hpdc5100mt>
Message-ID: <005001c85de8$b48bdd40$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>

Duane,

I don't know. I dont have the Sony DAT but I do have the 
Sony CDRW and it has a red "over". They may use the same 
Sony-logic. The "over" is part of the bar-meter for signal 
strength. If you have the menu set for peak signal 
indication storage, called "peak hold on" in Sony-speak, the 
"over" will stay on once any input has exceeded the meter 
range. Press "clear" will reset it until the next overage.

WBob


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message


>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Kind of - sort of, but not technically vintage, yet! But I 
> know not where else to ask.
>
> If you can find a copy of the manual for the Sony ZA5 ES 
> DAT deck on-line, perhaps you can help me.
>
> There is the word "OVER" appearing on the digital display 
> in red. It is followed by numbers from two to sixty. Based 
> on what was described to me, I think those numbers are 
> decibels.
>
> Everything works just as it should. The recording level is 
> not too high, the playback level shows slightly less than 
> the source in strength etc.
>
> I need one of you to find what this message, which 
> 'appears' to be supposed to be in red, actually is all 
> about.
>
> I am sure all of you know how difficult it is to deduce 
> what some to the digital displays say, and me having to 
> use readers who are not into audio makes it even more 
> complex.
>
> Since it is in red, I am concerned.
>
> Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
> dfischer@usol.com
> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
> http://www.w9wze.net
> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
> hhrp.w9wze.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Home: 
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
> 

From dfischer at usol.com  Wed Jan 23 14:18:11 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Wed Jan 23 14:17:25 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
References: <006801c85de6$fe721610$a1ea1240@hpdc5100mt>
	<005001c85de8$b48bdd40$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>
Message-ID: <002101c85df4$b5075860$88ea1240@hpdc5100mt>

Hi Bob,

I have never changed any factory default settings in the menus. I do not use 
the remote. I will do as you suggest and advise. Thank you sir.

Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
<vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message


> Duane,
>
> I don't know. I dont have the Sony DAT but I do have the Sony CDRW and it 
> has a red "over". They may use the same Sony-logic. The "over" is part of 
> the bar-meter for signal strength. If you have the menu set for peak 
> signal indication storage, called "peak hold on" in Sony-speak, the "over" 
> will stay on once any input has exceeded the meter range. Press "clear" 
> will reset it until the next overage.
>
> WBob
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
> To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:38 AM
> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Kind of - sort of, but not technically vintage, yet! But I know not where 
>> else to ask.
>>
>> If you can find a copy of the manual for the Sony ZA5 ES DAT deck 
>> on-line, perhaps you can help me.
>>
>> There is the word "OVER" appearing on the digital display in red. It is 
>> followed by numbers from two to sixty. Based on what was described to me, 
>> I think those numbers are decibels.
>>
>> Everything works just as it should. The recording level is not too high, 
>> the playback level shows slightly less than the source in strength etc.
>>
>> I need one of you to find what this message, which 'appears' to be 
>> supposed to be in red, actually is all about.
>>
>> I am sure all of you know how difficult it is to deduce what some to the 
>> digital displays say, and me having to use readers who are not into audio 
>> makes it even more complex.
>>
>> Since it is in red, I am concerned.
>>
>> Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> dfischer@usol.com
>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> http://www.w9wze.net
>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>
>
> -- 
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> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 
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>
> 

From dfischer at usol.com  Wed Jan 23 14:25:32 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Wed Jan 23 14:30:51 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
References: <20080123.104930.1988.0.w7ksg@juno.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c85df6$9685d3b0$88ea1240@hpdc5100mt>

J,

A logical suggestion. However, since I am totally blind and live here with 
me, myself and I, what do I tell the person on the Sony tech line when 
he/she asks me "what the X is reading" or what the "Y says"?

When one closes his eyes J., the world changes, as do the rules!


Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. Allen Call" <w7ksg@juno.com>
To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message


> Why don't you just call SONY?  They have a customer HELP line.  It is  1-
> 800-282 2848.
>
> J
> W7KSG
> _______________________________________________
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 
> 7:32 PM
>
> 

From dfischer at usol.com  Wed Jan 23 14:46:02 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Wed Jan 23 14:45:19 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
References: <006801c85de6$fe721610$a1ea1240@hpdc5100mt>
	<005001c85de8$b48bdd40$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>
Message-ID: <008101c85df8$9c600470$88ea1240@hpdc5100mt>

Bob,

No "clear" button, as such on the unit. There is one on the remote.

There are: mode then reset then set clock buttons. What about the 'reset 
button'?


Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
<vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message


> Duane,
>
> I don't know. I dont have the Sony DAT but I do have the Sony CDRW and it 
> has a red "over". They may use the same Sony-logic. The "over" is part of 
> the bar-meter for signal strength. If you have the menu set for peak 
> signal indication storage, called "peak hold on" in Sony-speak, the "over" 
> will stay on once any input has exceeded the meter range. Press "clear" 
> will reset it until the next overage.
>
> WBob
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
> To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:38 AM
> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Kind of - sort of, but not technically vintage, yet! But I know not where 
>> else to ask.
>>
>> If you can find a copy of the manual for the Sony ZA5 ES DAT deck 
>> on-line, perhaps you can help me.
>>
>> There is the word "OVER" appearing on the digital display in red. It is 
>> followed by numbers from two to sixty. Based on what was described to me, 
>> I think those numbers are decibels.
>>
>> Everything works just as it should. The recording level is not too high, 
>> the playback level shows slightly less than the source in strength etc.
>>
>> I need one of you to find what this message, which 'appears' to be 
>> supposed to be in red, actually is all about.
>>
>> I am sure all of you know how difficult it is to deduce what some to the 
>> digital displays say, and me having to use readers who are not into audio 
>> makes it even more complex.
>>
>> Since it is in red, I am concerned.
>>
>> Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> dfischer@usol.com
>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> http://www.w9wze.net
>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>
>
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From wolfbob at csnsys.com  Wed Jan 23 18:58:06 2008
From: wolfbob at csnsys.com (wolfbob)
Date: Wed Jan 23 19:00:39 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
References: <006801c85de6$fe721610$a1ea1240@hpdc5100mt><005001c85de8$b48bdd40$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>
	<008101c85df8$9c600470$88ea1240@hpdc5100mt>
Message-ID: <006501c85e1b$ccbdae10$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>

No, sorry, I guess there is not much similarity between the 
CDRW and the DAT.

Bob


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 
back" <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message


> Bob,
>
> No "clear" button, as such on the unit. There is one on 
> the remote.
>
> There are: mode then reset then set clock buttons. What 
> about the 'reset button'?
>
>
> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
> dfischer@usol.com
> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
> http://www.w9wze.net
> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
> hhrp.w9wze.net
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 
> 1975 back" <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT 
> Message
>
>
>> Duane,
>>
>> I don't know. I dont have the Sony DAT but I do have the 
>> Sony CDRW and it has a red "over". They may use the same 
>> Sony-logic. The "over" is part of the bar-meter for 
>> signal strength. If you have the menu set for peak signal 
>> indication storage, called "peak hold on" in Sony-speak, 
>> the "over" will stay on once any input has exceeded the 
>> meter range. Press "clear" will reset it until the next 
>> overage.
>>
>> WBob
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
>> To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:38 AM
>> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Kind of - sort of, but not technically vintage, yet! But 
>>> I know not where else to ask.
>>>
>>> If you can find a copy of the manual for the Sony ZA5 ES 
>>> DAT deck on-line, perhaps you can help me.
>>>
>>> There is the word "OVER" appearing on the digital 
>>> display in red. It is followed by numbers from two to 
>>> sixty. Based on what was described to me, I think those 
>>> numbers are decibels.
>>>
>>> Everything works just as it should. The recording level 
>>> is not too high, the playback level shows slightly less 
>>> than the source in strength etc.
>>>
>>> I need one of you to find what this message, which 
>>> 'appears' to be supposed to be in red, actually is all 
>>> about.
>>>
>>> I am sure all of you know how difficult it is to deduce 
>>> what some to the digital displays say, and me having to 
>>> use readers who are not into audio makes it even more 
>>> complex.
>>>
>>> Since it is in red, I am concerned.
>>>
>>> Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>>> dfischer@usol.com
>>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>>> http://www.w9wze.net
>>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Home: 
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Home: 
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus 
>> Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PM
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
> 

From dfischer at usol.com  Wed Jan 23 20:00:19 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Wed Jan 23 19:59:48 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
References: <006801c85de6$fe721610$a1ea1240@hpdc5100mt><005001c85de8$b48bdd40$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn><008101c85df8$9c600470$88ea1240@hpdc5100mt>
	<006501c85e1b$ccbdae10$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>
Message-ID: <000801c85e24$89bb5b90$f8ea1240@hpdc5100mt>

Wrong! What you said was exactly correct Bob. However the 'clear' button is 
on the remote, not the DAT deck itself.

I opened the doors on that six foot high wooden storage cabinet on the west 
wall of the living room just below the James B. Lansing Century L-100 right 
channel speaker to check my pile of new still in the wrapper remote control 
units! I counted eleven. Not to worry, I found another three here and there! 
I sure hope the remote I need says what it is for on it! I have a lot of 
Sony audio equipment!

Tomorrow when the sighted help arrives, he and I are going remote control 
exploring. Let you know what happens. Although both you and Sony agree, 
press the clear button and all is well.


Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
<vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message


> No, sorry, I guess there is not much similarity between the CDRW and the 
> DAT.
>
> Bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
> <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> No "clear" button, as such on the unit. There is one on the remote.
>>
>> There are: mode then reset then set clock buttons. What about the 'reset 
>> button'?
>>
>>
>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> dfischer@usol.com
>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> http://www.w9wze.net
>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
>> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
>> <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>>
>>
>>> Duane,
>>>
>>> I don't know. I dont have the Sony DAT but I do have the Sony CDRW and 
>>> it has a red "over". They may use the same Sony-logic. The "over" is 
>>> part of the bar-meter for signal strength. If you have the menu set for 
>>> peak signal indication storage, called "peak hold on" in Sony-speak, the 
>>> "over" will stay on once any input has exceeded the meter range. Press 
>>> "clear" will reset it until the next overage.
>>>
>>> WBob
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
>>> To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:38 AM
>>> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Kind of - sort of, but not technically vintage, yet! But I know not 
>>>> where else to ask.
>>>>
>>>> If you can find a copy of the manual for the Sony ZA5 ES DAT deck 
>>>> on-line, perhaps you can help me.
>>>>
>>>> There is the word "OVER" appearing on the digital display in red. It is 
>>>> followed by numbers from two to sixty. Based on what was described to 
>>>> me, I think those numbers are decibels.
>>>>
>>>> Everything works just as it should. The recording level is not too 
>>>> high, the playback level shows slightly less than the source in 
>>>> strength etc.
>>>>
>>>> I need one of you to find what this message, which 'appears' to be 
>>>> supposed to be in red, actually is all about.
>>>>
>>>> I am sure all of you know how difficult it is to deduce what some to 
>>>> the digital displays say, and me having to use readers who are not into 
>>>> audio makes it even more complex.
>>>>
>>>> Since it is in red, I am concerned.
>>>>
>>>> Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>>>> dfischer@usol.com
>>>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>>>> http://www.w9wze.net
>>>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>>>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>>>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>>>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 
>>> 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PM
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>
>
> -- 
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> 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PM
>
> 

From wolfbob at csnsys.com  Wed Jan 23 21:12:06 2008
From: wolfbob at csnsys.com (wolfbob)
Date: Wed Jan 23 21:14:40 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
References: <006801c85de6$fe721610$a1ea1240@hpdc5100mt><005001c85de8$b48bdd40$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn><008101c85df8$9c600470$88ea1240@hpdc5100mt><006501c85e1b$ccbdae10$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>
	<000801c85e24$89bb5b90$f8ea1240@hpdc5100mt>
Message-ID: <008f01c85e2e$85409d50$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>

Yes,  The Sony stuff I have all of the remotes have what 
they are for in big letters at the bottom.

WBob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 
back" <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message


> Wrong! What you said was exactly correct Bob. However the 
> 'clear' button is on the remote, not the DAT deck itself.
>
> I opened the doors on that six foot high wooden storage 
> cabinet on the west wall of the living room just below the 
> James B. Lansing Century L-100 right channel speaker to 
> check my pile of new still in the wrapper remote control 
> units! I counted eleven. Not to worry, I found another 
> three here and there! I sure hope the remote I need says 
> what it is for on it! I have a lot of Sony audio 
> equipment!
>
> Tomorrow when the sighted help arrives, he and I are going 
> remote control exploring. Let you know what happens. 
> Although both you and Sony agree, press the clear button 
> and all is well.
>
>
> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
> dfischer@usol.com
> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
> http://www.w9wze.net
> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
> hhrp.w9wze.net
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 
> 1975 back" <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT 
> Message
>
>
>> No, sorry, I guess there is not much similarity between 
>> the CDRW and the DAT.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
>> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 
>> 1975 back" <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT 
>> Message
>>
>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> No "clear" button, as such on the unit. There is one on 
>>> the remote.
>>>
>>> There are: mode then reset then set clock buttons. What 
>>> about the 'reset button'?
>>>
>>>
>>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>>> dfischer@usol.com
>>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>>> http://www.w9wze.net
>>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
>>> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 
>>> 1975 back" <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT 
>>> Message
>>>
>>>
>>>> Duane,
>>>>
>>>> I don't know. I dont have the Sony DAT but I do have 
>>>> the Sony CDRW and it has a red "over". They may use the 
>>>> same Sony-logic. The "over" is part of the bar-meter 
>>>> for signal strength. If you have the menu set for peak 
>>>> signal indication storage, called "peak hold on" in 
>>>> Sony-speak, the "over" will stay on once any input has 
>>>> exceeded the meter range. Press "clear" will reset it 
>>>> until the next overage.
>>>>
>>>> WBob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
>>>> To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:38 AM
>>>> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT 
>>>> Message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind of - sort of, but not technically vintage, yet! 
>>>>> But I know not where else to ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can find a copy of the manual for the Sony ZA5 
>>>>> ES DAT deck on-line, perhaps you can help me.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is the word "OVER" appearing on the digital 
>>>>> display in red. It is followed by numbers from two to 
>>>>> sixty. Based on what was described to me, I think 
>>>>> those numbers are decibels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything works just as it should. The recording 
>>>>> level is not too high, the playback level shows 
>>>>> slightly less than the source in strength etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need one of you to find what this message, which 
>>>>> 'appears' to be supposed to be in red, actually is all 
>>>>> about.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sure all of you know how difficult it is to 
>>>>> deduce what some to the digital displays say, and me 
>>>>> having to use readers who are not into audio makes it 
>>>>> even more complex.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since it is in red, I am concerned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>>>>> dfischer@usol.com
>>>>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>>>>> http://www.w9wze.net
>>>>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>>>>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Home: 
>>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>>>>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>>>>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Home: 
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>>>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>>>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus 
>>>> Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 
>>>> PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Home: 
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Home: 
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
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>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>
>>
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>> Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PM
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>
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From dfischer at usol.com  Thu Jan 24 13:53:31 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Thu Jan 24 13:52:46 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Issue With Sony DAT Unit
Message-ID: <003801c85eba$6c7ba670$d8ea1240@hpdc5100mt>



Hi All,

Well, I remain perplexed. I found the remote, put fresh batteries in it, 
aimed it at the Sony DTC ZA5 ES DAT deck and pressed the "clear" button. 
Nothing happened.

I tried several other remote control operations, such as "play", "pause", 
"eject" etc. All worked. Hence, the remote was working.

I also tried pressing "clear" and then "enter". No change.

I am wondering if this word in red "OVER" is supposed to be this way? The 
display shows 60 db down to 2 db from left to right. The word "OVER" is to 
the right of the last number, 2 db. Below this horizontal line of numbers 
are the little dash like marks that move to indicate the signal strength. 
None of the numbers light up, the position of the moving left channel and 
right channel dash mark indicates the strength. Simply put, if the left 
channel dash mark is below 20 db, that is the signal strength.

I got 'NO' help from Sony's tech support. Sad. They used to be fantastic. 
The guy I got had absolutely no clue what I was talking about. I had to give 
him the model number five times! I finally insisted on a senior supervisor 
and got one.

He said just what Wolfman Bob said, press the "clear" button on the remote. 
I asked him if 'peak hold' was the factory default setting, he said that it 
was.

I also asked if this word in red "OVER" would affect my ability to record 
music or playback music? He said it would not.

I am open for suggestions gentlemen.

FYI: I learned one thing. The model number on a remote control unit does NOT 
match the model number of the product! Now me being blind, and you being 
sighted, you may have known this, I did not. Naturally the right remote was 
the last of the fourteen I went through to find it!


Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

From dfischer at usol.com  Thu Jan 24 13:56:58 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Thu Jan 24 14:00:44 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
References: <006801c85de6$fe721610$a1ea1240@hpdc5100mt><005001c85de8$b48bdd40$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn><008101c85df8$9c600470$88ea1240@hpdc5100mt><006501c85e1b$ccbdae10$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn><000801c85e24$89bb5b90$f8ea1240@hpdc5100mt>
	<008f01c85e2e$85409d50$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>
Message-ID: <006b01c85ebb$88efc790$d8ea1240@hpdc5100mt>

Can you be precise Bob, as my sighted helpers sure can not tell me what any 
of these remotes go to! They get the manufacturer, a "RM" numer, but nothing 
that matches up with the actual product. Such as two Sony TV sets, how do 
you know which of the remotes goes with which set?

Any additional guidance you can provide for me to tell these technology 
bewildered people will be appreciated.

Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
<vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message


> Yes,  The Sony stuff I have all of the remotes have what they are for in 
> big letters at the bottom.
>
> WBob
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
> <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>
>
>> Wrong! What you said was exactly correct Bob. However the 'clear' button 
>> is on the remote, not the DAT deck itself.
>>
>> I opened the doors on that six foot high wooden storage cabinet on the 
>> west wall of the living room just below the James B. Lansing Century 
>> L-100 right channel speaker to check my pile of new still in the wrapper 
>> remote control units! I counted eleven. Not to worry, I found another 
>> three here and there! I sure hope the remote I need says what it is for 
>> on it! I have a lot of Sony audio equipment!
>>
>> Tomorrow when the sighted help arrives, he and I are going remote control 
>> exploring. Let you know what happens. Although both you and Sony agree, 
>> press the clear button and all is well.
>>
>>
>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> dfischer@usol.com
>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> http://www.w9wze.net
>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
>> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
>> <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>>
>>
>>> No, sorry, I guess there is not much similarity between the CDRW and the 
>>> DAT.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
>>> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
>>> <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> No "clear" button, as such on the unit. There is one on the remote.
>>>>
>>>> There are: mode then reset then set clock buttons. What about the 
>>>> 'reset button'?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>>>> dfischer@usol.com
>>>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>>>> http://www.w9wze.net
>>>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>>>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
>>>> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
>>>> <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Duane,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know. I dont have the Sony DAT but I do have the Sony CDRW and 
>>>>> it has a red "over". They may use the same Sony-logic. The "over" is 
>>>>> part of the bar-meter for signal strength. If you have the menu set 
>>>>> for peak signal indication storage, called "peak hold on" in 
>>>>> Sony-speak, the "over" will stay on once any input has exceeded the 
>>>>> meter range. Press "clear" will reset it until the next overage.
>>>>>
>>>>> WBob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
>>>>> To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:38 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Need Help With Sony DAT Message
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind of - sort of, but not technically vintage, yet! But I know not 
>>>>>> where else to ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can find a copy of the manual for the Sony ZA5 ES DAT deck 
>>>>>> on-line, perhaps you can help me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is the word "OVER" appearing on the digital display in red. It 
>>>>>> is followed by numbers from two to sixty. Based on what was described 
>>>>>> to me, I think those numbers are decibels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything works just as it should. The recording level is not too 
>>>>>> high, the playback level shows slightly less than the source in 
>>>>>> strength etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need one of you to find what this message, which 'appears' to be 
>>>>>> supposed to be in red, actually is all about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sure all of you know how difficult it is to deduce what some to 
>>>>>> the digital displays say, and me having to use readers who are not 
>>>>>> into audio makes it even more complex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since it is in red, I am concerned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>>>>>> dfischer@usol.com
>>>>>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>>>>>> http://www.w9wze.net
>>>>>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>>>>>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>>>>>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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From wolfbob at csnsys.com  Thu Jan 24 14:19:10 2008
From: wolfbob at csnsys.com (wolfbob)
Date: Thu Jan 24 14:21:55 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Issue With Sony DAT Unit
References: <003801c85eba$6c7ba670$d8ea1240@hpdc5100mt>
Message-ID: <004901c85ebe$00500320$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>

Duane,

I shoulda looked at my Sony CDRW. The red "over" is 
illuminated whenever the unit is on. It is over the portion 
of the volume bar meter that includes the highest reading 
possible. If the bar meter peak gets to this point that bar 
will stay lit as this is the peak of the signal and the 
"over" is indicating the signal is (was)  is too big 
although the "over" doesn't change it's illumination level 
or do anything other than to identify that spot on the 
meter. It has no effect whatever on what is being recorded 
or played and you can ignore it completely. The pressing of 
the "clear" will reset the bar meter peak and it will 
assdume a new peak. The word "over" stays lit whenever the 
unit is on signal or no signal. No worries, mate. Sorry for 
the confusion.

WBob


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Issue With Sony DAT Unit


>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I remain perplexed. I found the remote, put fresh 
> batteries in it, aimed it at the Sony DTC ZA5 ES DAT deck 
> and pressed the "clear" button. Nothing happened.
>
> I tried several other remote control operations, such as 
> "play", "pause", "eject" etc. All worked. Hence, the 
> remote was working.
>
> I also tried pressing "clear" and then "enter". No change.
>
> I am wondering if this word in red "OVER" is supposed to 
> be this way? The display shows 60 db down to 2 db from 
> left to right. The word "OVER" is to the right of the last 
> number, 2 db. Below this horizontal line of numbers are 
> the little dash like marks that move to indicate the 
> signal strength. None of the numbers light up, the 
> position of the moving left channel and right channel dash 
> mark indicates the strength. Simply put, if the left 
> channel dash mark is below 20 db, that is the signal 
> strength.
>
> I got 'NO' help from Sony's tech support. Sad. They used 
> to be fantastic. The guy I got had absolutely no clue what 
> I was talking about. I had to give him the model number 
> five times! I finally insisted on a senior supervisor and 
> got one.
>
> He said just what Wolfman Bob said, press the "clear" 
> button on the remote. I asked him if 'peak hold' was the 
> factory default setting, he said that it was.
>
> I also asked if this word in red "OVER" would affect my 
> ability to record music or playback music? He said it 
> would not.
>
> I am open for suggestions gentlemen.
>
> FYI: I learned one thing. The model number on a remote 
> control unit does NOT match the model number of the 
> product! Now me being blind, and you being sighted, you 
> may have known this, I did not. Naturally the right remote 
> was the last of the fourteen I went through to find it!
>
>
> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
> dfischer@usol.com
> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
> http://www.w9wze.net
> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
> hhrp.w9wze.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Home: 
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
> 

From dfischer at usol.com  Thu Jan 24 15:03:18 2008
From: dfischer at usol.com (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
Date: Thu Jan 24 15:08:31 2008
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Issue With Sony DAT Unit
References: <003801c85eba$6c7ba670$d8ea1240@hpdc5100mt>
	<004901c85ebe$00500320$0302a8c0@bobgk3l43zyuqn>
Message-ID: <005401c85ec5$0196afc0$a4ea1240@hpdc5100mt>

Well, that is indeed good news. Thank you!

One good thing, I got the two AA cells out of the remote just as they 
started to leak! I did not even know that it ever had batteries in it. 
However, it has been almost ten years since I installed the unit, so it is 
easy to forget such seeming petty details.

I found remotes for things I no longer even own!


Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer@usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob@csnsys.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
<vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re Issue With Sony DAT Unit


> Duane,
>
> I shoulda looked at my Sony CDRW. The red "over" is illuminated whenever 
> the unit is on. It is over the portion of the volume bar meter that 
> includes the highest reading possible. If the bar meter peak gets to this 
> point that bar will stay lit as this is the peak of the signal and the 
> "over" is indicating the signal is (was)  is too big although the "over" 
> doesn't change it's illumination level or do anything other than to 
> identify that spot on the meter. It has no effect whatever on what is 
> being recorded or played and you can ignore it completely. The pressing of 
> the "clear" will reset the bar meter peak and it will assdume a new peak. 
> The word "over" stays lit whenever the unit is on signal or no signal. No 
> worries, mate. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> WBob
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer@usol.com>
> To: <vintage-audio@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:53 AM
> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Issue With Sony DAT Unit
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Well, I remain perplexed. I found the remote, put fresh batteries in it, 
>> aimed it at the Sony DTC ZA5 ES DAT deck and pressed the "clear" button. 
>> Nothing happened.
>>
>> I tried several other remote control operations, such as "play", "pause", 
>> "eject" etc. All worked. Hence, the remote was working.
>>
>> I also tried pressing "clear" and then "enter". No change.
>>
>> I am wondering if this word in red "OVER" is supposed to be this way? The 
>> display shows 60 db down to 2 db from left to right. The word "OVER" is 
>> to the right of the last number, 2 db. Below this horizontal line of 
>> numbers are the little dash like marks that move to indicate the signal 
>> strength. None of the numbers light up, the position of the moving left 
>> channel and right channel dash mark indicates the strength. Simply put, 
>> if the left channel dash mark is below 20 db, that is the signal 
>> strength.
>>
>> I got 'NO' help from Sony's tech support. Sad. They used to be fantastic. 
>> The guy I got had absolutely no clue what I was talking about. I had to 
>> give him the model number five times! I finally insisted on a senior 
>> supervisor and got one.
>>
>> He said just what Wolfman Bob said, press the "clear" button on the 
>> remote. I asked him if 'peak hold' was the factory default setting, he 
>> said that it was.
>>
>> I also asked if this word in red "OVER" would affect my ability to record 
>> music or playback music? He said it would not.
>>
>> I am open for suggestions gentlemen.
>>
>> FYI: I learned one thing. The model number on a remote control unit does 
>> NOT match the model number of the product! Now me being blind, and you 
>> being sighted, you may have known this, I did not. Naturally the right 
>> remote was the last of the fourteen I went through to find it!
>>
>>
>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> dfischer@usol.com
>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> http://www.w9wze.net
>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
>> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-audio
> List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF
> ** For Assistance: dfischer@usol.com **
>
>
> -- 
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> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 
> 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PM
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