[Vintage-Audio] Re Speaker Wire Options

[wolfbob]

Maybe we have a semantics issue here, but there is NO delay 
in speaker wires. No echo either.  Signals travel down the 
wire at slightly less than the speed of light or about  one 
foot per nanosecond. 100 ft =100 nSec or about 0.000001 
millisec wnhich is about the smallest delay you can hear. 
Mis match may produce a reflection but it is only a small 
fraction of one cycle and again even if in bounced back and 
forth for one million trips, it would amount to no more than 
a millisec. delay. It's  gotta be quite tuckered out by 1000 
trips much less a million. Also changing the wire size or 
nature does not effect the mismatch which is simply a 
concern of the amplifier source imedance and the speaker 
impedance. The speaker wire is too short (in wavelengths) to 
get in to the game. Something else was going on.

MCM is having a sale on #12 speaker wire at under $20 for 50 
ft with gold plated connectors.

www.mcminone.com

WBob, WB6JPI


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
To: <w9ran at oneradio.net>; "Vintage home and professional 
audio equipment from 1975 back" 
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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re Speaker Wire Options


> All I can report are the facts. The wire I used was either 
> 14 or 18 gauge, multiple strand conductor. There was a 
> definate delay from amp to speakers due to a mismatch 
> somewhere. The Sony TA-1144 amp was SS and rated for 8 
> Ohms, as are the Century L-100's. When I replaced the wire 
> with the smaller gauge wire the problem vanished. The wire 
> did solve the problem, whatever it may have been.
>
> It was not some fancy wire with wild claims, it was simply 
> wire. It did not cost much money, it was nothing special.
>
> As far as lows falling off etc. Not with this system!
>
> So as far as any wild claims, fancy wire etc. Not here 
> guys. Just inexpensive ordinary wire.
>
>
> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
> dfischer at usol.com
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Nickels" <w9ran at oneradio.net>
> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 
> 1975 back" <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re Speaker Wire Options
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>
>> Well,
>>
>> There's a lot of personal opinions about speaker wire, 
>> and obviously some of them come from those who make a lot 
>> of money by creating demand based on FUD (Fear 
>> Uncertainty and Doubt).   I don't buy into any of that, 
>> and sorry Duane I don't buy that some small gauge  "speed 
>> wire" has superior properties either, at least without 
>> knowing more about it's composition, and I have been 
>> unable to find any reference to it on the web.
>>
>> What I do believe is that connecting an amplifier to a 
>> load follows the same laws of physics that govern every 
>> other electronic interconnection. Resistance in series 
>> creates a power loss and the speaker won't sound as loud. 
>> And if the speaker impedance is not constant, then the 
>> effect of increased resistance in series will have 
>> greater effect at those frequencies where the speaker 
>> impedance is highest, altering the sound. It matters not 
>> whether your speakers are connected with  zip cord, lamp 
>> cord, coaxial cable or barbed wire spaced on vintage 
>> glass insulators (see the link below) - as long as the 
>> wire gauge chosen provides a sufficiently low resistance 
>> for the cable length required, it will do the same job 
>> and sound just fine.  Honest testing based on measurable 
>> parameters over the years has repeatedly confirmed that 
>> there is no difference between the performance of 
>> properly selected "cheap wire" and the high priced 
>> audiophool wire.
>>
>> I don't intend to offend anyone - if you think something 
>> sounds better, use it!  It's a hobby after all.   For a 
>> no nonsense treatment of this topic and the data to back 
>> it up, see http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm 
>> OK there's a little nonsense there, but it's toward the 
>> end of the page!
>>
>> 73, Bob W9RAN
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