[TVARC] EchoHam/EchoLink on a Mac

Wayne Poole wfpoole at gmail.com
Tue Jul 21 18:28:13 EDT 2020 

Marty, I have no trouble with Echolink and Win10.  Same network config and it works fine.  EchoHam on Mac is having issues.






Wayne
k4wfp



> On Jul 21, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Marty Santic <marty.santic at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If anyone has gotten Echolink to work w/ the PC and Windows 10, let me know.  Works fine on iOS and the iPhone.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 3:34 PM Wayne Poole <wfpoole at gmail.com <mailto:wfpoole at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Rusty,
> 
> Question for you.  EchoHAM is the newest version of EchoMAC - just a name change from what I understand.  Did you really download EchoMAC?  If so, what version is it?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Wayne
> k4wfp
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:12 PM, w3us at casa-aloha.net <mailto:w3us at casa-aloha.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks much for the help.  I downloaded EchoMac, and though it appears almost identical to EchoHam, I was able to make a connection to ECHOTEST and K4VRC-R.  Success!  I fired up EchoHam and ignoring the UDP 5198/5199 errors connected to K4VRC.  Success again.  I tried Echolink under my Windows emulator, but no joy.  Baby steps.  Thanks again everyone.  We’ll figure this out.
>> 
>> rusty - W3US
>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 08:35, Wayne Poole <wfpoole at gmail.com <mailto:wfpoole at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There seems to be more to this issue.
>>> 
>>> Echoham (MAC) and Echolink (Win) are very different programs.  Different program entirely and the MAC version certainly is missing a lot of the functionality.  For example, EchoHam does not have the option for “firewall/router test” as the Win version does.  I have both versions running.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I have no issues with the Echolink IOS version.  Works.  Just tested connection to VRC repeater - successful.  Echoham - fail.  I see that most, if not all of the attempted connections with Echoham say either “connection rejected” or “disconnected”.  I think the later is a timeout issue.  I did up the connect time to 30s with no success.
>>> 
>>> What is strange is I have no issues connection to the server with Echoham.  I also can connect to very, very few repeaters.  For example, K4ETN-R - was able to connect.  I attempted connection to greater than 20 and just worked my way down the list until I was successful. Again, no ability to connect to VRC with Echoham.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> k4wfp
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 11:31 PM, Tom Crawford <tmcsail at sbcglobal.net <mailto:tmcsail at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Understand Rusty,
>>>> Everything you’re saying is exactly what I would expect. 
>>>> Your iPhone app has a default mode called “relay”  It does not require any setups for the router’s port forwarding. It just works. 
>>>> 
>>>> EchoMac requires the router to be set either for Port Forwarding or Port Triggering of the UDP ports. 
>>>> 
>>>> This FAQ page shows a typical router page for setting port triggering:
>>>> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/ <http://echomac.sourceforge.net/>
>>>> 
>>>> Click “router setup”. 
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Tom
>>>> W3TMC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 11:03 PM, "w3us at casa-aloha.net <mailto:w3us at casa-aloha.net>" <w3us at casa-aloha.net <mailto:w3us at casa-aloha.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am connecting to Verizon with a MiFi device.  Again, no problem with the iPhone, even with port forwarding turned off.  It simply goes through.  When I attempt to connect with the Mac, even with firewalls turned off - no go.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 19:28, Tom Crawford <tmcsail at sbcglobal.net <mailto:tmcsail at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just a train of thought here Rusty-
>>>>>> If port forwarding works with your iPhone, then UDP packets are being directed to the iPhone’s IP address. No other device is going to work unless the computer is forced to the address the iPhone had. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Port triggering is an option that, if used will forward the packets to the address the router has determined is the most likely address to have requested the data. 
>>>>>> This service (port triggering) allows multiple computers to use the application- although, not at the same time, I don’t believe. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope this helps. 
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Tom, W3TMC
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 4:53 PM, "w3us at casa-aloha.net <mailto:w3us at casa-aloha.net>" <w3us at casa-aloha.net <mailto:w3us at casa-aloha.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I refreshed my copy of EchoHam just now, but result is the same — no go on UDP ports 5198/5199.  I can connect to Echolink on my iPhone via my router, which would indicate the router is not the problem.  Stumped.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rusty - W3US
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 13:37, Mark Tetlow <mark.tetlow at icloud.com <mailto:mark.tetlow at icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’m using both EchoLink ( iOS ) and EchoHam ( MacOS ). Also, I have Xfinity for cable. The only things I did was check that UPnP was enabled on my Xfinity Gateway and then I pushed the WPS button on top of the gateway. Everything worked!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This was a fresh download of EchoHam; today. Previously, before trying those items explained above, I had no connection. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>> KB1UHA 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Wayne Poole <wfpoole at gmail.com <mailto:wfpoole at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Same issue here.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Echomac (v 2.13) - connect to server(s) but unable to connect any repeater, link or station.
>>>>>>>>> Echolink IOS - works just fine.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ports all forwarded per website.  No firewall.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>>> k4wfp
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 9:33 AM, w3us at casa-aloha.net <mailto:w3us at casa-aloha.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone using EchoHam on a Mac, or Echolink on a Windows emulator on a Mac?  I’ve not been successful getting it to work.  I connect to servers okay, but consistently fail to receive packets on UDP ports 5198 and 5199.  I don’t believe the problem to be with my router as I successfully connected via router using my iPhone last Monday.  I have turned off Mac and Windows firewalls as well as disabled Norton's firewall with no joy. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Any help appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Tnx,
>>>>>>>>>> Rusty - W3US
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