Quiet groop runs deep, My plan is 25G gooing to 120 feet with four sets of guys and no beams on it. It is to be a sky hook for 80 / 160 meter wire antennas,and prehaps the tower itself as a vertical. Still need base plate, two more sections and guys and anchors. Concerned about ice storms and shedding...and wind too. Summer 05 errection. Dave K1ZS in southwest NH