[TMC] Sideband Exciters

W2HX w2hx at w2hx.com
Fri Aug 27 21:59:23 EDT 2021


Sorry All.  I'm not home where I would post the file on my website.  It isn't very exciting (pun intended) mostly just the audio bandwidth specs

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From: Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 9:57 PM
To: Nick England
Cc: tmc at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [TMC] Sideband Exciters

   That is interesting. I usually get attachments from mailing
lists. I use Thunderbird and don't think I have done anything to
block attachments from this list. I have perhaps a year's worth
of posts in the INbox, none show attachments. I looked at the
posts supposed to have attachments and see no sign of any. So,
what is different? Are you reading from the web site or from a
mail client?

On 8/27/2021 6:13 PM, Nick England wrote:
> Eugene’s attachment came through here OK. I also got Meir’s
> photo attachment a few messages ago.
>
> Sometimes the interweb pneumatic tubes work OK. Sometimes not.
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 8:14 PM Richard Knoppow
> <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>         I don't think the list takes attachments. Looking at
>     the list
>     folder in my computer I don't see any attachments. I am not
>     sure
>     but I think Mailman may not take attachments on any of its
>     lists.
>
>     On 8/27/2021 2:23 PM, W2HX wrote:
>     > I had made a little spreadsheet of some differences I
>     found in the manuals a few years ago.  Hope the file makes
>     it through.
>     >
>     > Sent from Nine<http://www.9folders.com/>
>     >
>     > ________________________________
>     > From: BERMAN <triodes at optonline.net>
>     > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 2:52 PM
>     > To: Meir Ben-Dror WF2U; Nick England
>     > Cc: George W1LSB via TMC
>     > Subject: Re: [TMC] Sideband Exciters
>     >
>     > Meir, thanks for the input on the SBE-series of exciters.
>     >
>     > I have a model SBE-2A (not SBE-2) exciter integrated
>     within my GPT-750. Do you (or anyone else here) know how
>     the SBE-2A differs from the SBE-2 or the later SBE-3?
>     >
>     > I ask this as I was unaware that the SBE-3 and later
>     variants were less of "a pain in the neck" when compared to
>     those units that were of the earlier pre-SBE-3 design.
>     >
>     > 73,
>     >
>     > Bruce, W2XR
>     >
>     >> On August 27, 2021 at 2:18 PM Meir Ben-Dror WF2U
>     <wf2u at ws19ops.com mailto:wf2u at ws19ops.com > wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>      Chris,
>     >>
>     >>      Nick is correct of course, but as TMC master
>     oscillators are concerned, besides the VOX series, you can
>     also use a PMO if you need only one output. Another advice:
>     the older SBE-2 is a pain in the neck, but the SBE-3 (and
>     up) is much better and if needs to be, easier to align.
>     >>      Here is my multi-mode 350 W TMC system I put
>     together; I had enough space in the rack to mount the
>     GPR-90RXD receiver in it as well, and a homebrew dual
>     speaker panel, for single rack integrated station. I have a
>     PMO in there, because the VOX I have needs some work, but
>     I'll keep the PMO in the system.
>     >>
>     >>      73, Meir WF2U
>     >>      Landrum, SC
>     >>
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>     >>      On Aug 27, 2021, 1:59 PM, at 1:59 PM, Nick England
>     <navy.radio at gmail.com mailto:navy.radio at gmail.com > wrote:
>     >>      >Yes you also need a variable master oscillator
>     like the TMC VOX
>     >>      >(O-330).
>     >>      >Otherwise the SBE can run crystal-controlled and
>     has a switch for
>     >>      >multiple
>     >>      >crystals. For many government and commercial
>     applications, crystal
>     >>      >control
>     >>      >was fine.
>     >>      >Hey, it’s TMC.
>     >>      >
>     >>      >
>     >>      >On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 1:31 PM Chris Bolkan
>     <bolkyboats at gmail.com mailto:bolkyboats at gmail.com >
>     >>      >wrote:
>     >>      >
>     >>      >> Hi TMC lovers!
>     >>      >>
>     >>      >> I have been looking at a few TMC transmitters on
>     the history site and
>     >>      >> am confused about something. It seems that most
>     of the systems have a
>     >>      >> master oscillator (0-330 or something like that)
>     in addition to the
>     >>      >> SBE exciter (SBE-3 or 3 or whatever)
>     >>      >> I am hoping to assemble a complete working
>     transmitter at some point
>     >>      >> if it ever becomes possible to obtain the
>     components, but at this
>     >>      >time
>     >>      >> I know precious little about what is actually
>     required to assemble a
>     >>      >> working transmitter. I thought based on reading
>     and images of the
>     >>      >> controls on the SBE's that they contain the
>     required oscillators and
>     >>      >> are self contained. My question is do they? Or
>     is the 0-330 master
>     >>      >> oscillator required in addition to the SBE to
>     have a fully
>     >>      >functioning
>     >>      >> exciter, or is the "master" oscillator an
>     "extra" that allows
>     >>      >> synchronization of multiple transmitters and
>     receivers and so forth?
>     >>      >I
>     >>      >> apologise if this is an ignorant question. I
>     suppose I could
>     >>      >> eventually figure it out if I read enough on the
>     history site, but
>     >>      >> it's not always easy to figure everything out
>     looking at just manuals
>     >>      >> without an understanding of the original
>     deployment and (intended
>     >>      >use)
>     >>      >> for these devices.
>     >>      >>
>     >>      >> Thanks in advance!
>     >>      >>
>     >>      >> Best regards,
>     >>      >> Chris
>     >>      >> KI7NXY
>     >>      >>
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