[TheForge] Another stupid mask idea -- no metal content

Thu Apr 2 09:18:19 EDT 2020

Saint:
Use paper toweling between the layers of bandana, or do as I do and put
them plus Kleenex inside the bandana.  The tissues are to help keep the
paper towels dry and to provide a better skin feel, the paper towels are
the filter.

My masks are a derivative of this idea:
https://www.consumer.org.hk/ws_en/news/specials/2020/mask-diy-tips.html
I didn't have plastic-coated wire, so I cut 4"x1/2" strips from a
disposable aluminum roasting pan and folded them lengthwise.  (Others use
twist ties, but the wires in those aren't strong enough.)
I didn't have much elastic, and its use complicates the assembly.  Instead
I just staple the paper layers to an ironed bandana (folded on the
diagonal), which I find easy to tie behind my head.  I sometimes use a
spring clip on the half-hitch knot as well, as this makes it more secure
but still allows me to snug up the bandana by tugging on its two ends.
The slowest part of assembling these masks is ironing the bandana.  The
biggest hangups were (1) finding a store with full-sized paper towels
available, and (2) allowing for the fact that tissues and paper towels
apparently have different dimensions here than in Hong Kong.

Bruce
NJ

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:21 AM Saint Phlip <saintphlip at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I hafta go out, I'm wearing a bandana over my lower face, glasses, and
> a headband. Gloves on my hands, and screw peoples' opinions, yesterday's
> clothes including an overshirt, then when I get in, I remove everything
> inside out, as I was taught for proper glove removal, jump into the shower,
> then into clean clothes, then the inside-out laundry goes to the washer.
> also wearing rubber boots, and washing them off before I come into the
> house.
>
> Would like, however, to figure out something for between the layers of
> bandana, but at the moment I'm using what I have.
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:12 PM jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:
>
> > Calking a mask to your face ISN'T an April's fools prank? That is just
> too
> > good a straight line to leave be but I'm afraid you actually might be
> > serious. Plumbers's or Glazer's putty can be removed from hair with a
> > little
> > cooking oil or butter.
> >
> > However rather than do something that entertaining without posting pics
> for
> > us to enjoy. You'd go much better to make a full head cover. Use a large
> > clear plastic bag, that will cover your head, neck ad tuck into a shirt
> or
> > jacket. Cut a space to clear a mask after marking the position while on
> > your
> > head. Seal the two together with duct tape, inside and out.
> >
> > Have you never read Science Fiction?
> >
> > Even though there are work arounds to the mask/beard thing and I've seen
> > too
> > many reports about aerosolized virus passing N-95 masks so wearing a mask
> > is
> > only really effective keeping the infected from spraying others. Not so
> > good
> > keeping it off and out of the wearer. The whole 20' thing is another
> > example
> > of people posting advice without understanding the source material. The
> 20'
> > spread is for a number of aerosolized micro organism particles per sq.
> > meter. and used as a metric for determining an organism's level of
> > infectiousness. I'm not really clear, it didn't really apply to this
> > situation so I ignore such " from a good friend sent, reliable source,
> > etc."
> > posts.
> >
> > Making masks on the other hand may become the only alternative and your
> > points about how absorbent cotton is combined with my thoughts about
> > quilting has me wondering about a solid layer of cotton balls in the
> quilt.
> > I keep forgetting to bounce the copper mask infusion idea off a friend
> who
> > actually is closely related with epidemiology.
> >
> > You made a comment about equal opportunity stupidity. Personally I'm all
> in
> > favor of natural selection especially if it chlorinates the gene pool
> > before
> > the stupid gene is passed along.
> >
> > So, tell me Bruce what is so special about your beard that makes it worth
> > taking an unnecessary chance with your life?
> >
> > Mine is just hair, it'll go in a heart beat if I have to use a Bic
> lighter.
> > A surprisingly painless way to get crazy close hairless skin. I'll
> probably
> > just lather up and shave though.
> >
> > Frosty
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce .
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 6:57 AM
> > To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Another stupid mask idea -- no metal content
> >
> > Oh no!  Not your BEARD!  How's anybody gonna tell you from ... a *girl!?
> > *(Yeah,
> > right.)
> >
> > Nope, my previous post wasn't meant as a joke.  I actually think the wax
> > idea might work. But I'm not in a rush to test it myself -- no need.
> >
> > And I disagree about masks not protecting us. Stand in front of a mirror
> or
> > glass and cough or sneeze.  Now look at the pattern of droplets on the
> > glass.  I just read an article suggesting those droplets can travel 20
> > feet.
> > *That's* what I'm trying to stop from getting in my face, with my face
> > shield and mask.
> >
> >   This is equal opportunity stupidity.
> >
> > BTW, congrats to your Governor.  He's one of the few Republican governors
> > to
> > take COVID-19 seriously, and apparently he did an exceptional job of it
> and
> > could be a model for all the other Governors of either party.  I just
> hope
> > it's not too little and too late for everybody else.
> >
> > Hang in there,
> >
> > Bruce
> > NJ
> >
> >
> >
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>
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> formulation may satisfy the layman, it does not suffice for the scientific
> mind. The School of Higher Neantical Nillity is in fact wholly unconcerned
> with what does exist. Indeed, the banality of existence has been so amply
> demonstrated, there is no need for us to discuss it any further here. The
> brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered three
> distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the purely
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