[TheForge] Scrolling Tongs from Tinsnips?

[J. Petrila]

Hi sorry, i think my point was missed..

There is no reason the group cant make their own scroll tongs.

The reason I didnt elaborate on conversion of tin snips into scroll tongs
is it's my belief they will be inferior to a real pair and wouldnt waste my
time on such a thing..

For the amount of time to take them apart, forge the blades down and then
refit them.  I could basically make a whole new pair..

Giving you a lesson would give you 2 pair..

Sorry, but I have nothing more to offer than that..



On Sun, Jul 22, 2018, 3:23 PM Bruce . <freemab222 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well thanks for the offer of a lesson, and especially for the pointer to
> your videos.  (I didn't find the tong-making videos yet, but I've only
> glanced at the long list of them that you have on YouTube.)
>
> But I'll pass on the lesson because you're really missing my point.
>
> I am not, at this juncture, interested in increasing my knowledge of
> forging.  I have no intention or interest  in forging scrolling tongs from
> bar stock.  I could probably do that now, but don't have the time to try it
> out and improve my technique enough to get a product worth including in our
> toolboxes.
>
> (Nor am I, as you imply, teaching anyone how to forge tongs.  The teaching
> I do is mainly to novices:  starting and maintaining a coal fire; basic
> forging operations; a few simple projects they can try.)
>
> My current interest is *only *in getting two pair of scrolling tongs
> finished and into our toolboxes by Aug. 6 (our next public demo) and all
> six finished and into our toolboxes by October (our next remote open forge
> meet).  The issue is *having the tongs available for use*, not my learning
> to make them.  And since NJBA operates on a slim budget, purchasing them is
> out.
>
> I never asked for info on how to forge scrolling tongs from scratch, only
> how to forge them from tinsnips -- which has way fewer steps.
>
> So I reiterate -- if anyone knows of an article, video, or other
> instructional material for making scrolling tongs from tinsnips, I'd
> appreciate hearing of it.
>
> Bruce
> NJ
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:52 AM, J. Petrila <jlpservicesinc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Well if your up for a drive, I'd be happy to give you a lesson or 2 on
> tong
> > making..
> >
> > As for mediocre forging skills, the only way to get better is to do it..
> >
> > Doing it with someone who has a great understanding makes it even easier.
> >
> > Learning to make tongs from someone who can barely make them is not a
> great
> > way to learn it..
> >
> > As for Peter Ross..  or any other of the lifetime Smith's, why would you
> > make a comparison to them....     this is their life story and have
> > developed the skill set so they can do it..
> >
> >
> > A good friend of mine, said to me after asking me about making a bracket
> > for an old BMW motorcycle and me offering to "help" him make them...  "
> > I've got people for that"...
> >
> > He has no interest in blacksmithing or fabrication work, but has the
> money
> > to purchase or barter for the items he wants.
> >
> >
> > To ask the question " How to do something".. or " What's the best way"
> > infers there is a desire to learn..
> >
> > So, what if it takes you 3days to forge 1 pair..  the second set might
> only
> > take you 2days..
> >
> > Only sticking to what you are good at , because you are good at it would
> > eliminate many, many, many needed skill sets in blacksmithing.
> >
> >
> > Instead of supplying the group have a scroll tong forging day and have
> them
> > make the tongs for the group..
> >
> > "No one skilled enough to forge scroll tongs in the group" invite someone
> > who can and offer something in return...
> >
> > Blacksmiths for the most part are doers..
> >
> > Use this to your advantage..
> >
> > Come see me in MASS and I'd be happy to "GIVE" you a lesson or check out
> > the jlpservicesinc youtube video channel there are 4 or so videos on tong
> > making different kinds..
> >
> > Or hit me up at any of the demos I do and id be happy to give you a
> lesson
> > there..
> >
> > Practice makes perfect and it's the only way to get better..
> >
> > Even if there is a physical limitation sometimes this can be addressed to
> > the point where forging can become possible.
> >
> >
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