[TheForge] Desperation forces stoopid question time...

Fri Sep 4 12:28:12 EDT 2015

Just to let everyone know how it all worked out:  I acquired 4 10-foot 
lengths of 1/2"thick curb- or corner-armoring.  It is 6"x4.5"  I cut 
them to length, welded them in pairs to obtain the 12"x4" channel.  
Built the overhead portions from the remainder and some 1/4" plate I had 
laying around.  All in all, the door frame is about 1000# and in place.

I have since acquired a 107" solid core office door, cut to 101". Clad 
now in 1/8" sheet on the outer face, 2x2x1/8 angle on the edges, welded 
and carriage-bolted.  About 350# total.

Next, I will build 6"x24" strap hinges with oilite bearings built from 
3/4" plate.  Why?  Because I'm not paying $213 each for 
industrial-strength strap hinges.

On 7/23/15, 1:13 PM, Bruce . wrote:
> You didn't say how thick.
> Why not get two pieces of flat stock, 4" x whatever thickness, and fab them
> to a web.  The web need not be solid, especially if there will be concrete
> blocks inserted.  In fact, you could probably do without the web at all,
> except maybe for convenience in construction.  You can get a welder for
> $100 these days, 15A @ 120V, if you don't already have that capability.
>
> Bruce
> NJ
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
>
>> I need 12" between flanges so the block will fit between.  The uprights
>> need to be about 103" tall (need to re-measure to be certain) and cross
>> sufficient for a 38" rough opening and a 45* miter.  4" flange would be
>> sufficient, but larger could be made to work.  Not sure I'd want to go much
>> smaller.
>>
>> Idea is to put the cross member in place long enough to get the uprights
>> under it.  Square and plumb it up, weld, and be done.  I don't want to
>> drill into the masonry.  I will grout the metal with non-shrinking material
>> and be done with it.  This will be super strong and I do not ever want to
>> have to think about it again, once finished.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/15, 5:16 PM, Bruce . wrote:
>>
>>> Assuming you could get exactly what you want at a price you could afford,
>>> what dimensions would you go with -- flanges, web, thickness and length?
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> NJ
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:47 PM, <wmullett at bright.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Why a channel?   You can weld up an unequal leg angle frame and set that
>>>> into the opening then anchor to the wall through the leg.   I doubt that
>>>> you really need to protect the jambs in a man door opening.
>>>>
>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:17:05 -0400
>>>>> From: "TheForge" <theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net> (on behalf of
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>> Vida <osan at netlabs.net>)
>>>>
>>>>> Subject: [TheForge] Desperation forces stoopid question time...
>>>>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey guys - I am almost done with my basement.  My 2' crawl space under
>>>>> the house is not a 10 basement with a 12" thick poured concrete floor.
>>>>> The new foundation is 12" block beneath the footings supporting the 8"
>>>>> block, above.  The gap was grouted using standard mortar given some
>>>>> oomph with about 7-8 pounds of Portland per 60# bag.  The house ain't
>>>>> going nowhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sawed the footing that ran across the 38" door opening, and that is
>>>>> where my question comes in.  I am looking for some c-channel, 12"
>>>>> between flanges, to use as the door framing material, to which an
>>>>> armored door will be mounted.  Trouble is, I can't find any affordable
>>>>> channel.  Cheapest was WV steel, right here in Charleston, but still
>>>>> very pricey for po' trash like me @ $672 for 24 feet.  Online, they
>>>>> wanted almost $1600!
>>>>>
>>>>> This question is stupid because of proximities, but I figure I can't
>>>>> lose anything by asking, save some of your already low estimation of my
>>>>> intelligence. :)  Anyone here know anyone within perhaps 200 miles of
>>>>> Charleston WV that might have some such channel iron they might be
>>>>> looking to be rid of?  I need to get this done now before fall hits and
>>>>> if I don't get moving, well - you know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>>       -Andy
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