[TheForge] Arc welding advice sought

Fri Jun 5 17:14:17 EDT 2015

No one has a Holox around here; isn't it Airgas now?

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From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dantull dantull
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 5:10 PM
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Course we don't have a Holox so I get mine from Sidney Lee Welding Supply.

It's not firewood, it's a vaasse.
Dan Tull
Georgia

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:47 PM, <ironstash at comcast.net> wrote:

> I like the MG wire and rods and I do sell them here in Georgia Alfred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "dantull dantull" <dantull at numail.org>
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 10:33:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought
>
> I got my last ones from Holox.
>
> It's not firewood, it's a vaasse.
> Dan Tull
> Georgia
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Bruce . <freemab222 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh, you didn't hear? We sold AK to Putin for $121 million ....
> >
> > Bruce
> > NJ
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:05 PM, jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I just skimmed through the Messer site and though I didn't find a
> > reference
> > > for MG750 rod, I liked the sound of the "Problem Solver" rod, the 
> > > MG750
> > is
> > > probably in the Problem Solver category.
> > >
> > > Though they say they're a global country their "world" map doesn't
> > include
> > > Alaska. Not that I'm surprised nor really complaining mind. It's 
> > > old
> news
> > > to
> > > us. <grin>
> > >
> > > Frosty
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf 
> > > Of
> > Ron
> > > Childers
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:30 AM
> > > To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought
> > >
> > > Toss a few in the next 5 gal bucketful you sell me
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf 
> > > Of dantull dantull
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 8:33 PM
> > > To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought
> > >
> > > Ya'll need to check out MG750 rods. Not as expensive, great for
> > dissimilar
> > > steels, NO pre/post heat. Been using them for years for mild hardy
> tangs
> > to
> > > tool steel, and anvil repair.
> > >
> > > It's not firewood, it's a vaasse.
> > > Dan Tull
> > > Georgia
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM, jerry Frost 
> > > <akfrosty at mtaonline.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good deal, I think you're on the right track now.
> > > >
> > > > I use Kaowool, refractory ceramic blanket for annealing if I 
> > > > don't just leave it in the forge till cool. Great stuff, I keep 
> > > > extra
> around
> > > > just because.
> > > >
> > > > Frosty
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On 
> > > > Behalf
> Of
> > > > Mike Spencer
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:15 PM
> > > > To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> > > > Subject: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Follow-up to my problem of brittleness & fracture in the HAZ 
> > > > when welding m/s to truck helper spring stock:
> > > >
> > > > + Cut off a test piece of the stock.
> > > >
> > > > + Pre-heated in gas forge. Turned kinda purple-ish but not a
> > > > carefully controlled heat.
> > > >
> > > > + Welded while hot with 7018. Just a butt weld, no V but 
> > > > + reversed
> > > > polarity.
> > > >
> > > > + Post-heated in gas forge.
> > > >
> > > > + Wrapped in ceramic wool batts until dead cold.
> > > >
> > > > Once cool, I put the test piece in a heavy vise and tried to 
> > > > bust it with a 12# sledge. No sign of cracking.
> > > >
> > > > So today I repeated the process with the actual work piece. 
> > > > Almost too big for the tube-type forge but I git it in and 
> > > > turned around
> > several
> > > times.
> > > > The m/s part was already tacked in place and it got dull red but 
> > > > not the much heavier 2x3x8 inch spring stock.
> > > >
> > > > It'll take all night for it to cool in the batts so we'll see
> tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > An aside: That ceramic batt is great stuff. Set a hot workpiece 
> > > > on it so the welding table won't draw heat. Lay a piece over the 
> > > > top and you can rest your gloved hand on the hot workpiece 
> > > > without getting burned.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all for the suggestions,
> > > > - Mike
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Michael Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada .~.
> > > > /V\
> > > > mspencer at tallships.ca /( )\
> > > > http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/ ^^-^^
> > > >
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