[TheForge] Arc welding advice sought

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I like the MG wire and rods and I do sell them here in Georgia 
Alfred 

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From: "dantull dantull" <dantull at numail.org> 
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Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 10:33:57 PM 
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought 

I got my last ones from Holox. 

It's not firewood, it's a vaasse. 
Dan Tull 
Georgia 

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Bruce . <freemab222 at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Oh, you didn't hear? We sold AK to Putin for $121 million .... 
> 
> Bruce 
> NJ 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:05 PM, jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> 
> wrote: 
> 
> > I just skimmed through the Messer site and though I didn't find a 
> reference 
> > for MG750 rod, I liked the sound of the "Problem Solver" rod, the MG750 
> is 
> > probably in the Problem Solver category. 
> > 
> > Though they say they're a global country their "world" map doesn't 
> include 
> > Alaska. Not that I'm surprised nor really complaining mind. It's old news 
> > to 
> > us. <grin> 
> > 
> > Frosty 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Ron 
> > Childers 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:30 AM 
> > To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA 
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought 
> > 
> > Toss a few in the next 5 gal bucketful you sell me 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> > dantull dantull 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 8:33 PM 
> > To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA 
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought 
> > 
> > Ya'll need to check out MG750 rods. Not as expensive, great for 
> dissimilar 
> > steels, NO pre/post heat. Been using them for years for mild hardy tangs 
> to 
> > tool steel, and anvil repair. 
> > 
> > It's not firewood, it's a vaasse. 
> > Dan Tull 
> > Georgia 
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM, jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> 
> > wrote: 
> > 
> > > Good deal, I think you're on the right track now. 
> > > 
> > > I use Kaowool, refractory ceramic blanket for annealing if I don't 
> > > just leave it in the forge till cool. Great stuff, I keep extra around 
> > > just because. 
> > > 
> > > Frosty 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> > > Mike Spencer 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:15 PM 
> > > To: theforge at mailman.qth.net 
> > > Subject: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Follow-up to my problem of brittleness & fracture in the HAZ when 
> > > welding m/s to truck helper spring stock: 
> > > 
> > > + Cut off a test piece of the stock. 
> > > 
> > > + Pre-heated in gas forge. Turned kinda purple-ish but not a 
> > > carefully controlled heat. 
> > > 
> > > + Welded while hot with 7018. Just a butt weld, no V but reversed 
> > > polarity. 
> > > 
> > > + Post-heated in gas forge. 
> > > 
> > > + Wrapped in ceramic wool batts until dead cold. 
> > > 
> > > Once cool, I put the test piece in a heavy vise and tried to bust it 
> > > with a 12# sledge. No sign of cracking. 
> > > 
> > > So today I repeated the process with the actual work piece. Almost 
> > > too big for the tube-type forge but I git it in and turned around 
> several 
> > times. 
> > > The m/s part was already tacked in place and it got dull red but not 
> > > the much heavier 2x3x8 inch spring stock. 
> > > 
> > > It'll take all night for it to cool in the batts so we'll see tomorrow. 
> > > 
> > > An aside: That ceramic batt is great stuff. Set a hot workpiece on it 
> > > so the welding table won't draw heat. Lay a piece over the top and 
> > > you can rest your gloved hand on the hot workpiece without getting 
> > > burned. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks all for the suggestions, 
> > > - Mike 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Michael Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada .~. 
> > > /V\ 
> > > mspencer at tallships.ca /( )\ 
> > > http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/ ^^-^^ 
> > > 
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