[TheForge] OT: My floor is poured: the saga OT:

Andrew Vida osan at netlabs.net
Sun Oct 26 16:35:10 EDT 2014


We have guineas.  No snakes of any sort on God's acre, WV.

I had a jack Russell named Jack.  he was my boy.  He left us 8/12/04 and 
not a day goes by I do not miss him.

Rat terriers are pretty neat... but pretty small.  Sadly, not small 
enough that Bibi would not notice the presence and once that happens, 
I'm done. Stick a fork in me.


On 10/25/14, 5:15 PM, David E. Smucker wrote:
> What Andy needs is a "real" Rat Terrier.  Only way to know for sure is to
> know if the parents are real good raters.  Only farmers and such will have
> real Rat Terriers.  We have one who was just dump in our rural area and came
> to live with our two Labs.  He is young, about a year, but a real killer.
> Now just to find something to kill the copper heads.  Of course if you don't
> have any rats or mice then you will not have any copper heads around.
> Haven't seen any copper heads since "BD" came to live with us.  BD is his
> name and stands for Brown Dog, what I first called him when he showed up
> almost starved to death.  Carol says it stands for Bad Dog because he digs
> in her flowers but he is such a cute little fart.
>
> Dave
> Brasstown, NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> We got a JR terrier with the same intent...He's willing but ineffective.
>
> On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:34 PM, David E. Smucker wrote:
>
> Andy,  Get a good Rat Terrier -- a good one can kills many rats per day.
> (Mice too) but they like rats better.  Before the days of chemical bates you
> would find Rat Terriers on almost every farm in the mid-west.  My Dad loved
> Rat Terriers.  The shake the rats to death and then move on to kill another.
> Google Rat Terrier for some history.
>
> Dave
> Brasstown, NC
>
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> Vida
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> I don't like it either, but we had literally hundreds of rats in the barn.
> We were over run and they were BIG.  I'm talking 16-18" from nose to end of
> tail.  I don't even care except they destroy pretty well everything, so they
> just had to go.  Bit fat Miss Kitty wasn't keeping up and Mittens almost
> never goes out.  Besides, half of the rate were as big as she.
>
> The worst of it is they would kill and eat the baby geese and that is what
> tore it for me.  Took two in one night thsi summer past and that's when I
> nuked them for the first time.  But yes, you have to have places where
> nobody else will get to the bait.  I just slipped it into the bus (still
> have that thing) and under the 8' thick hay in the other side of the barn.
> Speaking of which... I almost dread doing the hay next year.
> I cut with a Gravely, tetter and rake and bale by hand and am getting a bit
> long in the tooth for it.  My left shoulder is pretty well nerve-wrecked and
> am not sure what to do. Next year if lucky I will be able to get a disk
> mower for the tractor (small 24hp Kubota w/low cg for work on the steep-ish
> pasture).  Cutting 4 acres of hay by hand is not for us old farts, but the
> goats need to eat and we need the goat poo for the garden. We get about
> 25#/day in the barn, which we compost.  I've build several thousand square
> feet of the most beautiful, 12" tick topsoil you could shake your stick at
> and want to continue.  The garden produced very well this year.  We should
> have potatoes into April. But I digress.
>
> One more thing: this year we grew a bean they call "same" in Guyana.  It is
> a purple-green pod.  They are not good raw, which is a shame because I love
> raw beans, but cooked they are very good.  If you steam them lightly, they
> freeze very well.  We planted 5 or 6 and the vines that erupted from those
> were monstrous and are still going strong.  They produce fruit by the barrow
> load... most fecund bean we have raised thus far - we must have 30 pounds of
> it in the freezer and have eaten a load already.  Next year I intend on
> saving a whole lot more of the seed - have only a small vial at this time...
> less than 100 seeds.  If in a year the world has not gone to dust and anyone
> is interested in trying to grow this bean, let me know at that time and I
> will send some your way.  To my palate, the steamed bean's taste is
> reminiscent of artichoke.  I like them. Thinking to run them along the fence
> on the west end of the orchard.  That would give them plenty of room and the
> neighbors can pick some, too.
>
> -Andy
> On 10/24/14, 2:46 PM, jerry Frost wrote:
>> The thing I don't like about poison bait vermin control is poisoning
>> your pets if they eat the carcasses. Still, they have to go so you do
>> what you must. The gage kernals is how I do it too though not with
>> corn. The mice around here LOVE cat food and the barn cats won't eat
>> it if it isn't in the correct bowl. You gotta love good barn cats,
>> ours have food and regular medical care.
>>
>> Jer
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