[TheForge] OT: My floor is poured: the saga OT:

Sat Oct 25 17:15:10 EDT 2014

What Andy needs is a "real" Rat Terrier.  Only way to know for sure is to
know if the parents are real good raters.  Only farmers and such will have
real Rat Terriers.  We have one who was just dump in our rural area and came
to live with our two Labs.  He is young, about a year, but a real killer.
Now just to find something to kill the copper heads.  Of course if you don't
have any rats or mice then you will not have any copper heads around.
Haven't seen any copper heads since "BD" came to live with us.  BD is his
name and stands for Brown Dog, what I first called him when he showed up
almost starved to death.  Carol says it stands for Bad Dog because he digs
in her flowers but he is such a cute little fart.

Dave
Brasstown, NC

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We got a JR terrier with the same intent...He's willing but ineffective.

On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:34 PM, David E. Smucker wrote:

Andy,  Get a good Rat Terrier -- a good one can kills many rats per day.
(Mice too) but they like rats better.  Before the days of chemical bates you
would find Rat Terriers on almost every farm in the mid-west.  My Dad loved
Rat Terriers.  The shake the rats to death and then move on to kill another.
Google Rat Terrier for some history.

Dave
Brasstown, NC

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Vida
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I don't like it either, but we had literally hundreds of rats in the barn.
We were over run and they were BIG.  I'm talking 16-18" from nose to end of
tail.  I don't even care except they destroy pretty well everything, so they
just had to go.  Bit fat Miss Kitty wasn't keeping up and Mittens almost
never goes out.  Besides, half of the rate were as big as she.

The worst of it is they would kill and eat the baby geese and that is what
tore it for me.  Took two in one night thsi summer past and that's when I
nuked them for the first time.  But yes, you have to have places where
nobody else will get to the bait.  I just slipped it into the bus (still
have that thing) and under the 8' thick hay in the other side of the barn.
Speaking of which... I almost dread doing the hay next year.  
I cut with a Gravely, tetter and rake and bale by hand and am getting a bit
long in the tooth for it.  My left shoulder is pretty well nerve-wrecked and
am not sure what to do. Next year if lucky I will be able to get a disk
mower for the tractor (small 24hp Kubota w/low cg for work on the steep-ish
pasture).  Cutting 4 acres of hay by hand is not for us old farts, but the
goats need to eat and we need the goat poo for the garden. We get about
25#/day in the barn, which we compost.  I've build several thousand square
feet of the most beautiful, 12" tick topsoil you could shake your stick at
and want to continue.  The garden produced very well this year.  We should
have potatoes into April. But I digress.

One more thing: this year we grew a bean they call "same" in Guyana.  It is
a purple-green pod.  They are not good raw, which is a shame because I love
raw beans, but cooked they are very good.  If you steam them lightly, they
freeze very well.  We planted 5 or 6 and the vines that erupted from those
were monstrous and are still going strong.  They produce fruit by the barrow
load... most fecund bean we have raised thus far - we must have 30 pounds of
it in the freezer and have eaten a load already.  Next year I intend on
saving a whole lot more of the seed - have only a small vial at this time...
less than 100 seeds.  If in a year the world has not gone to dust and anyone
is interested in trying to grow this bean, let me know at that time and I
will send some your way.  To my palate, the steamed bean's taste is
reminiscent of artichoke.  I like them. Thinking to run them along the fence
on the west end of the orchard.  That would give them plenty of room and the
neighbors can pick some, too.

-Andy
On 10/24/14, 2:46 PM, jerry Frost wrote:
> The thing I don't like about poison bait vermin control is poisoning 
> your pets if they eat the carcasses. Still, they have to go so you do 
> what you must. The gage kernals is how I do it too though not with 
> corn. The mice around here LOVE cat food and the barn cats won't eat 
> it if it isn't in the correct bowl. You gotta love good barn cats, 
> ours have food and regular medical care.
> 
> Jer

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