[TheForge] Making dies for cutting sheet metal?
Jay Hayes
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Sat Mar 15 11:35:49 EDT 2014
Stack the 4-8 blanks and clamp or tack weld at the ends. Cut the teeth
with a band saw, hack saw, or zip disc. Then unclamp or grind off the
tack welds. A cheap Harbor Freight band saw would knock it out in a few
minutes with little cleanup.
On 3/15/2014 7:42 AM, Bruce . wrote:
> Okay, I think I count the following "votes" in favor of
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> dies
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> 1
> chisel
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> 1
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> Forge
> and
> grind
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> 1
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> plasma
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> 1
> water jet
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> 3
> laser
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> 4
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> ... with five people "voting"!
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> Only one vote for punch and dies -- or maybe 1 and a half. Okay. on to the
> next idea. (BTW, I was thinking of making punch and dies myself, not laser
> cutting them, using Streeter's method or something such.)
>
> The chisel idea is interesting, but I expect it would involve a lot of
> clean-up. It occurred to me on reading this that I might be able to
> combine techniques and acheive the end: Punch a hole, shear to the hole to
> make the "raw" tine, then use a smaller punch to form the end of the tine.
> I may look into this.
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> I've tried forging and it works well, but is very slow, and not very
> reproducible. I started making a "die" (really just a support apparatus)
> to facilitate forging, but ran into some troubles and decided to
> investigate alternative approaches. I may change my approach and try it
> again.
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> Same for grinding. If I change my approach as suggested, I might make it
> feasible. (I doubt that combining it with forging would be necessary.)
> I tried milling, but I lack a milling machine. Using a milling attachment
> on a lathe, I ran into problems that might not be worth the bother trying
> to overcome. What comes to mind is to mount a Dremel in the 4-jaw chuck
> of the lathe (which would act only as a holder), then mount a stack of
> stock in my milling attachment, and have at that with the Dremel. The
> milling attachment provides fairly close control of the motions, thus
> compensating for my lousy hand-to-eye coordination.
>
> I have been considering sawing these out using a jeweler's saw -- tedious,
> but I can work from a pasted-on drawing and get the result I need.
>
> So much for techniques I can do myself. On to the ones I'd have to
> contract out:
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> My limited knowledge of plasma cutting suggests it won't produce a clean
> enough cut.
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> Waterjet and laser sound attractive, but I haven't the foggiest idea how to
> get started with these. Any pointers? Do any firms advertise onesy-twosy
> production?
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> As for the questions asked:
> I'm aiming to make the combs from stock between 1/32" and 1/8" (1/16" is a
> good choice). I need at least 7 teeth so am aiming for 8 or more teeth for
> now. Later I might want to go to much larger numbers, but smaller sizes.
> For the current design, the teeth would be 1/4" wide and spaced 1/4" apart,
> and 2" long, including the complication on the end. The combs must be
> reasonably identical -- not rocket science, but they must work together in
> the final device, so must be compatible. I would have trouble achieving
> this with hand work, but any ordinary machining approach would be fine.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
>
> Bruce
> NJ
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