[TheForge] TreWax: Indian Paste Wax
Andrew Vida
osan at netlabs.net
Thu Jul 17 07:32:45 EDT 2014
Regarding food use, I used to use Behlen's Salad Bowl Finish, an oil
product that seemed to work well, though not cheap. I first used it on
a butcher block someone had thrown onto the curb in Queens ca. '83. It
was gross and a corner was broken out of it. I re-glued the corner and
ground about 1/2 off the top, which was laden with tallows of all
sorts. Down to bare wood, I used the oil and it soaked right in.
Several coats worth. Dunno if it polymerizes like linseed, but it was
flavorless and imparted no color to the wood and I'm still here to write
about it, so I guess it did not poison me.
No idea whether it is still available.
On 7/13/14, 9:28 AM, Vincent Nakovics wrote:
> I used a lot of the Bowling Alley wax on bronze cannon tubes and plaques around Colonial National Historical Park when I worked there. It is softer and easier to use than Trewax, but I preferred the Trewax as I felt it lasted longer. I also used it on furniture in my furniture repair and restoration business. The wax also came in colors which helped with minor scratches on furniture finishes.
> Bowling Alley wax is preferred by Conservators because it has the composition as the microcrystalline wax that museums use only you don't have to melt it down to use, because of the solvent it goes on easier and faster and will build if put on thicker. At least that is why they told me they wanted me to use it on the historical stuff. If I remember right it said as much in my furniture restoration books as well.
> Oh and they use bowling alley wax on food products once the solvent doesn't leave a residue apparently.
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> Vince Nakovics
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> Frosty,
> I found this on Amazon. Is this the stuff you're talking about?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Trewax-Paste-Wax-Clear-12-35-Ounce/dp/B005SRV1PI
>
> Rob
> Wichita, KS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of jerry
> Frost
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:31 PM
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> I did a little more reading about gathering carnuba and if it wasn't
> brittle in the extreme it'd be a major PITA to harvest. They shake it from
> fronds after they dry.
>
> I use an old can of "Tree Wax" carnuba paste wax, I've had for a couple
> decades. The can is badly worn I can't read what else is in the mix but it
> stays tacky for up to half an hour but once set it's like armor on forged
> steel. I haven't seen Tree Wax on shelves in I don't know how long. Guys on
> Iforgeiron are saying "Bowling Alley Wax" is de bomb. It's Carnuba and the
> way they describe it in use makes me think they're very similar products.
> I'll have to give a can a try before my cherished stash of Tree Wax is used
> up.
>
> How are you doing Andy? Long time no read you.
>
> Jer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Vida
> Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 1:14 AM
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> On 7/1/14, 2:27 AM, jerry Frost wrote:
>> Carnuba is hard and expensive, I imagine it's brittle if applied too
> thick.
>
> I have several pounds of carnauba somewhere. It is literally like glass and
> brittle at almost any thickness. Mixing with beeswax makes a very nice
> finish.
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> That looks like the stuff Rob; different color can but the can I have is 25+
> years old and half full. What really catches my eye is the Wooster bristle
> stencil brush next to it in the add, I think I'll be making an order but I'm
> going to do some more looking around the brush costs more than a can of wax.
>
> Not seeing this add says a lot about how hard I've been not looking eh? I'll
> bet a little more looking and I'll find a store with it on the shelf here in
> the Valley.
>
> Jer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rob
> Fertner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:37 PM
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> Frosty,
> I found this on Amazon. Is this the stuff you're talking about?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Trewax-Paste-Wax-Clear-12-35-Ounce/dp/B005SRV1PI
>
> Rob
> Wichita, KS
>
>
>
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> Frosty,
>
> It's cheaper here:
> http://trewax.beaumontproducts.com/floor-care/trewax-paste-wax
> There's a store locator button on that page.
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of jerry
> Frost
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:25 PM
> To: 'Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA'
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 125, Issue 3
>
> That looks like the stuff Rob; different color can but the can I have is 25+
> years old and half full. What really catches my eye is the Wooster bristle
> stencil brush next to it in the add, I think I'll be making an order but I'm
> going to do some more looking around the brush costs more than a can of wax.
>
> Not seeing this add says a lot about how hard I've been not looking eh? I'll
> bet a little more looking and I'll find a store with it on the shelf here in
> the Valley.
>
> Jer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rob
> Fertner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:37 PM
> To: 'Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA'
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 125, Issue 3
>
> Frosty,
> I found this on Amazon. Is this the stuff you're talking about?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Trewax-Paste-Wax-Clear-12-35-Ounce/dp/B005SRV1PI
>
> Rob
> Wichita, KS
>
>
>
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> Both Carl Jensen (RIP) and EA Chase advocated plain old , cheap, Johnson furniture wax, hot,
> which has some carnuba in it.
> I bought some carnuba in bulk years ago and have never used it.
>
> On Jul 1, 2014, at 6:30 PM, jerry Frost wrote:
>
> I did a little more reading about gathering carnuba and if it wasn't
> brittle in the extreme it'd be a major PITA to harvest. They shake it from
> fronds after they dry.
>
> I use an old can of "Tree Wax" carnuba paste wax, I've had for a couple
> decades. The can is badly worn I can't read what else is in the mix but it
> stays tacky for up to half an hour but once set it's like armor on forged
> steel. I haven't seen Tree Wax on shelves in I don't know how long. Guys on
> Iforgeiron are saying "Bowling Alley Wax" is de bomb. It's Carnuba and the
> way they describe it in use makes me think they're very similar products.
> I'll have to give a can a try before my cherished stash of Tree Wax is used
> up.
>
> How are you doing Andy? Long time no read you.
>
> Jer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Vida
> Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 1:14 AM
> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 125, Issue 3
>
>
> On 7/1/14, 2:27 AM, jerry Frost wrote:
>> Carnuba is hard and expensive, I imagine it's brittle if applied too
> thick.
>
> I have several pounds of carnauba somewhere. It is literally like glass and
> brittle at almost any thickness. Mixing with beeswax makes a very nice
> finish.
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] silver question 2
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> Pewter lining, on a silver chalice????
>
>
> That makes ZERO sense. Is he sure it is pewter? If so, is he sure the
> chalice is of silver? Could it be plated?
>
>
> One typically does not contaminate noble metals with base varieties.
> Not saying that it cannot be done, but there is no obvious reason to,
> and several reasons not to.
>
>
> On 7/1/14, 8:10 AM, C&J Allcorn wrote:
>> Thanks, I'll pass this along.
>>
>> In response to Mike's question, all I know is what he told me. he
>> said it was a family piece and had a pewter liner which he wanted
>> removed and discarded. He called it a chalice (maybe it was dropped
>> or damaged in some way??? Perhaps the fact that it has a pewter liner
>> affects it?? This fellow has been a priest for 26 years and has been
>> on the staff of two seminaries. I'm not Catholic so I can't comment
>> on the use or reuse of an object. I just got the sense that it was
>> unusable in its current state or condition. He said if additional
>> metal needed to be added that was ok with him, just that he wanted the
>> original metal included. Obviously it has some personal meaning to
>> him. What that is, I have no idea.
>> James
>>
>> Carl Close, Hammersmith Studios, LLC in Concord MA would be the place to
>> start. If this is not a project that Carl would handle, I am sure
>> that he
>> could refer the priest to someone local that could handle it.
>>
>> D-ski
>>
>> .
>>
>> I concur with finding a real silversmith.
>> Question:
>> I also am RC. Something about the question jumped out at me.
>> Are you sure it is a family chalice being made into a cup and not a
>> family cup being made into a chalice?
>> Generally speaking no liturgical furniture would be reused in the
>> fashion you describe.
>>
>> Mike Graf
>>
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