[TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 125, Issue 3

Thu Jul 17 07:26:12 EDT 2014

On 7/14/14, 2:10 PM, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
> Andy, aren't you up there in the PNW where there are giant quakes?

Been out of WA and OR 10 years.  Been in WV 8 and I don't think I will 
be going anywhere else this lifetime.  12 states is more than enough 
sight seeing for me and I like the mountains.  Besides, if I suggested a 
move, Bibi would murder me and not even wait for me to go to sleep.
> Fiber reinforced concrete and the plastic additives that normally go with it,
> deteriorate with age much more quickly that rebar.
I may have another 20 or 30 years left in me.  I am not very worried 
about this bit.
> I suspect that that's the reason we no longer see surface bonding cement in wide use.
> Please stick steel in your mud sir.
Been thinking of it.
>
> On Jul 14, 2014, at 8:56 AM, <wmullett at bright.net> <wmullett at bright.net> wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> There is no "lateral stability" supplied from block columns.  Block columns (depending on size) are not at all stable and are very poor even in compressive strength unless they are fully grouted.  We use block pilasters in walls but they are braced by the wall and are grouted and sometimes reinforced.  If these are interior columns, the standard basement pipe column is probably a better and easier choice.
>
> 3,00 PSI concrete for residential footings is more than adequate.  Although current codes usually require 2 #4 bars in wall footings, there are a lot of houses built with no reinforcement.  And code still allows for simple rubble foundations.  Fiber reinforcement  is primarily used for crack control, not flexural strength.
>
> ---- Original message ----
>> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 08:36:07 -0400
>> From: "TheForge" <theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net> (on behalf of Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net>)
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 125, Issue 3
>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>
>> Doing OK - almsot finished with final excavation bits and pieces. 240
>> yards of hard, miserable red shale clay dug out from beneath the house
>> by myself, a shovel, and a wheelbarrow.  House is on high-strngth
>> columsn I fabricated (18).  Will be putting in 8 block columns to give
>> lateral stability, then excavate a 3' trench to the outside of the
>> existing foundation so I can do the form work.  a 12" thick concrete
>> foundation will be poured with a fiber-reinforced 6Kpsi mix.  That way I
>> can forgo the misery of doing rebar.  This is compete overkill, but the
>> cost is only marginally greater and the benefit of never having to think
>> about it again is eminently worth it.
>>
>> Then drainage, floor, backfill, electric, plumbing, heat, and a 48"
>> fabricated and armored door mounted on 12" channel-iron frame welded
>> into the structure. :)
>>
>> My wife wanted a basement.  She's getting a basement.
>>
>>
>> On the sadder side, I accidentally killed Brownie on 6/24.  She was my
>> baby and I didn't watch her because I was busy doing the hay. She snuck
>> into the truck, went in back and I parked it and the heat killed her.  I
>> should have been more mindful.  The house seems so empty without her and
>> Oliver (border collie) has not been right since then, nor the cats, if
>> you can believe that.  Both are acting oddly since.  I feel miserable
>> about this.  It is like killing one of your own children.
>>
>> Other than that things are OK.  Busy busy busy is why I've not been
>> posting here.  This house thing has all my attention, and then there
>> will be other projects like building a shop and a greenhouse.  I have 4
>> 50' x 16" light gage I-beams from which I want to make a pyramidal
>> greenhouse of about 2K feet.  That would keep us in veggies year-round.
>>
>> Hope all is well by everyone.
>>
>>
>> On 7/2/14, 5:10 PM, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>>> Both Carl Jensen (RIP) and EA Chase advocated plain old , cheap, Johnson furniture wax, hot,
>>> which has some  carnuba in it.
>>> I bought some carnuba in bulk years ago and have never used it.
>>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 6:30 PM, jerry Frost wrote:
>>>
>>> I did a little more reading about gathering carnuba  and if it wasn't
>>> brittle in the extreme it'd be a major PITA to harvest. They shake it from
>>> fronds after they dry.
>>>
>>> I use an old can of "Tree Wax" carnuba paste wax, I've had for a couple
>>> decades. The can is badly worn I can't read what else is in the mix but it
>>> stays tacky for up to half an hour but once set it's like armor on forged
>>> steel. I haven't seen Tree Wax on shelves in I don't know how long. Guys on
>>> Iforgeiron are saying "Bowling Alley Wax" is de bomb. It's Carnuba and the
>>> way they describe it in use makes me think they're very similar products.
>>> I'll have to give a can a try before my cherished stash of Tree Wax is used
>>> up.
>>>
>>> How are you doing Andy? Long time no read you.
>>>
>>> Jer
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andrew
>>> Vida
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 1:14 AM
>>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 125, Issue 3
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/1/14, 2:27 AM, jerry Frost wrote:
>>>> Carnuba is hard and expensive, I imagine it's brittle if applied too
>>> thick.
>>>
>>> I have several pounds of carnauba somewhere.  It is literally like glass and
>>> brittle at almost any thickness.  Mixing with beeswax makes a very nice
>>> finish.
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