[TheForge] Concrete forms OT, but important... for me anyhow.

[Andrew Vida]

Well Jerry, there is thing called money and we do not have enough of it 
to jack the house and remove the old masonry.  Unless you know of a 
charity that will do it at a loss, we're pretty well stuck with what we 
have.  I've been through this every which way in my head, including your 
suggestion and it is financially unfeasible over here.  I would love to 
do it right and I agree that the builders were imbeciles, but this is 
the hand we have and we need a cellar, so that is pretty well that.


On 8/13/14, 2:12 PM, jerry Frost wrote:
> I understand why a mason wouldn't want to try straightening that mess out.
> It'd stamp his/er name on whatever happens in the future, too much
> liability. We ran into that when we had to fire an electrician and tried to
> find another to finish the house. What ended up happening was a good friend
> of Deb drove up from Michigan and managed to winkle it out. And we get to
> live with it how it is.
>
> Were that my project I would've hired a house mover to lift the house off
> that half assed jumble of a foundation, get it out of the way. THEN do the
> dirt work in the open, have a real foundation laid and have the house mover
> come back and set it down. Heck, faster easier and cheaper to have a pile
> buck drive piles, jack it up OFF that mess weld the necessary beams and set
> it down. A professional outfit would have it finished the day or day after
> the piles were driven. Reconnect the utilities and you're no longer camping
> in it, you don't even need to move out, just pack the fragile stuff. Then
> you can spend a summer hammering the old crap out of the way STANDING UP and
> skirt it. Done deal.
>
> Seriously, whoever built the house was pretty clueless, or set on the idea
> of doing it themselves. The only justifiable reason to do THAT was they were
> too broke to do it right. Seriously that original foundation is a complete
> dumbass clusterfuck,  they tried to lay a foundation on OG rather than do
> the unbelievably stupid SIMPLE dirtwork necessary to do it right. I don't
> care how broke someone is they can afford a shovel, rake and time to do it
> right.
>
> There is NO good reason to try to make the existing foundation work, it's so
> much easier to just remove and replace it. You my friend have fallen into
> the trap of the "do it yourselfer" who thinks you can do anything. How long
> have you been screwing with it now? Sure, ANYTHING can be done but is it
> worth it? Do it right brother, cut your losses and don't live with the mess
> you're making for yourself. Ever want to insure your house? What do you
> think an insurance company rep is going to say when they look at that
> foundation?
>
> Jer
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Vida
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:45 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Concrete forms OT, but important... for me anyhow.
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>
> On 8/12/14, 6:59 PM, jerry Frost wrote:
>> I was a little surprised watching your video, you don't sound like a
>> crazed maniac like I thought you would. Go figger eh?
>
> Oh trust me, I am.  The very fact that I undertook this in the first place
> is proof of that.  It's 4:45 AM and I cannot sleep for worry now... Neighbor
> is blck mason - I will talk to him about doing block work instead, but not
> sure what he will say.  He saw this once and freaked out... thought the
> building would fall.  It isn't going anywhere.
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