[TheForge] Gas heater question

[wmullett at bright.net]

I too would never install the ventless heaters - no matter how cheaply you got them.  Cheap can kill you quickly.

I have an 1890 brick farmhouse with hot water heat and radiators.  The boiler went bad so I took the opportunity when I installed a new boiler to replace the mess of rusted piping with pex and I added multiple zones.   Wow - what a nice installation.  Something I could have done in my younger years.  And now I'm thinking of extending a zone to my un-heated wing.  A hot water baseboard is easy to install and not that expensive.

I sure wish I had the gas though - I'm stuck with fuel oil.

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:13:06 -0900
>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net (on behalf of "Jerry Frost" <akfrosty at mtaonline.net>)
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Gas heater question  
>To: "'Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>
>I'm with you Bruce, I'm no fan of ventless heaters of any kind. An easy to
>run heat would be a gas water heater and baseboard heat or under floor
>hydronic. Pex tubing is really easy to run, you can pull it like wire and
>there are a number of different end use heat exchangers from radiators to
>baseboard to sub floor contact plates and even overhead IR radiators.
>
>Jer
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce .
>Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:27 PM
>To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Gas heater question
>
>Ventless heaters are dangerous to use in a living space, especially if
>anyone will be sleeping.
>
>I think you are missing an opportunity here.  With free gas, you can put
>efficiency as a secondary consideration and safety first.  Build yourself
>some sort of gas burner and install it outside.  Either above or around it,
>install a leak-proof box as a heat exchanger.  Feed this box air from a
>blower (e.g., shop vac), and run a 4"-6" line from it to the basement.
>
>There are too many ways to implement this to bother describing it more than
>this -- it all depends upon what materials you can scrounge.  The best bet
>would be to scrounge any sort of vented furnace and build from that.
>
>How's things otherwise?
>
>Bruce
>NJ
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
>
>> This is a ventless heater - no exchanger.
>>
>> But thanks for the warning.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/20/13, 10:20 PM, Kim George wrote:
>>
>>> Just make sure that the heat exchanger is good or you might not wake up.
>>>
>>>
>
>
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