[TheForge] Crowdsourcing Question

[mazrim at comcast.net]

I actually do regret asking about the crowdsourcing in the first place. I do appreciate the advice that I received like I mentioned in the e-mail. I have seen many people use crowdsourcing to help them get into a new craft such as this. I have been putting a lot of time into learning about smithing, nad have been following this list for a while learning from it as well. I am not a child, nor do I not have a job. Because I still can not afford this right now, partly due to taking care of someone with health conditions, I thought this was a possible solution. Why I reacted the way I did is that in between the useful ideas was what I saw as a lot of condecension. I am concerned with building a propane forge because of the safety aspects, especially living in a heavily settled area of the city so I though it was smarted to buy one to start with, then possibly build one in the future. For an anvil, I can not seem to find any that still have good edges for less that $400-500. I am perfectly willing to listen to advice and welcome it. 


Lloyd W. Giddinge 
mazrim at comcast.net 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Frost" <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> 
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:14:02 PM 
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Crowdsourcing Question 

I doubt he actually regrets asking, his only regret is being answered 
like he were an adult. My only regret, fear actually, is the growing 
trend in this and other countries to expect someone ELSE to foot the 
bill is becoming the norm. It's not like he asked for help with a 
blacksmithing problem, or even how to get started on the cheap, he asked 
how to get someone else to fund his smithy. I can bend your ear for 
hours about setting up a forging operation with nothing and I mean no 
thing. I've picked scrap out of rivers including the anvil, an old 
axle, picked junk off beaches, boat wrecks, abandoned canneries, etc 
etc. And I'm always looking for folk who want to learn. What I have 
little time and less use for are the *give me* kids. 

Heck, this guy insults us with a *give me* question and then thinks *he 
*can call for the end of the discussion? I'm afraid there are some 
questions a person should be down right ashamed to have asked. 

Sorry guys, I shouldn't have jumped in in the first place and most 
certainly shouldn't have reacted to his snitty little parthing shot. 
I'll go sit in my corner now. 

Frosty 


On 6/24/2013 1:25 PM, CGRAF wrote: 
> Don't feel bad about asking the question. NEVER feel bad about asking 
> a question. EVER. 
> 
> Just be prepared to listen and learn from the answers. 
> 
> Like I said before money can be a trap. 
> You will be far better off and happier starting small, and building 
> along with your skill set than funding an "all the toys" workshop and 
> getting frustrated by not being able to truly utilize it. 
> 
> 
> WE all have been newbies at one time or another and know in our hearts 
> that a plain simple and direct answer is the best favor we can offer. 
> 
> Looking at who has responded I can tell you that some of the best, 
> most generous and experienced smiths I have ever had the pleasure to 
> meet have taken the time to respond. 
> 
> Go and play in the fire and ask more questions. You are in good company. 
> 
> Mike Graf 
> 
> On 6/24/2013 12:44 PM, mazrim at comcast.net wrote: 
>> Well, I obviously regret asking this question now. Some of the 
>> replies I received are useful and I thank you for those. Let this be 
>> the end of this discussion please. 
>> \ 
> 

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