[TheForge] Good to hear from you (was: Anyone know why IForgeIron dot com is down?)

Mon Jul 15 22:39:39 EDT 2013

Jerry,

It's always good to hear from you.  Frankly, I can't recall that rant
you referred to, so I obviously didn't let it bother me.  Hell, Andy
Vida is one of my better friends, so I guess I'm inoculated against
rants!

I hadn't quite realized what degree of damage you suffered.  You
remain articulate, and that's important.  A friend of mine suffered a
very serious stroke a few years ago.  I don't get to see him much
because he lives in another state, but his family was very supportive
-- which is good because he lost a little physical function, and lost
speech almost entirely.  Yet I can talk to him and see that he
understands everything I say.  He's in there -- he just can't tell me
so in words.  Much better that you can speak for yourself.

No, I don't intend to inject myself into the IFI troubles either.  My
one comment was as far as I go.

BTW, you or anyone else with any interest in the brain might find this
TED talk to be eye-opening:

http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:
> I can't say Bruce, Glenn and I are friends but I'm nothing like that kind of
> insider. Nobody is going to say anything to me about strategy, I don't think
> Glenn's looking to trash anyone, he just wants to be shut of this crap.
>
> If the plaintiff's identity is public record ayone should be able to find
> out. The initial suit was filed in another country so I have zero idea about
> what is or isn't public information.
>
> I have to try keeping a personal distance or I start losing it. It's an
> aspect of my TBI I"m afraid. Most of the brain damage was to  my left
> hemisphere so amongst other things my amygdala isn't in as good control as
> it used to be and I can really get going on a subject, right wrong or
> whatever. Language interpretation and production is left hemisphere too, so
> I not only may miss what someone means I don't communicate as well as I used
> to. My inner voice doesn't work like it used to either, somethings I find
> myself having inner dialogues about things that happened decades ago.
> Temporal sense is left hemisphere too so that's scrambled and I have to
> stop, think and compare to approximate dates, times and sometimes sequence
> of events. Temporal sense is also the main control for linear thinking which
> is a biggy. This crap is improving but it still causes problems. <sigh>
>
> I sometimes find myself lost in a rant over such minor things as to mean
> nothing. I'm sad to say I blew a gasket at you for no good reason Bruce. And
> what's worse I knew I shouldn't send it and sent it anyway. I've reread your
> posts and can't for the life of me figure out what you wrote that pissed me
> off so much, probably something long past that just boiled up then. I wish I
> could take it back or undo it but what's done is done and I really have to
> work at moving on. Right now in fact I have to work to NOT get back into a
> rant OR beating myself up for a few days.
>
> Yeah, you've probably guessed it, I've been reading up on the brain, strokes
> and TBI.
>
> Anyway, I don't dare get too involved in IFI's troubles or I'll find myself
> ranting nonstop to no purpose and probably making things worse. Heck, I
> shouldn't've started making these update posts but avoiding my issues isn't
> going to help me overcome them. Passing on what I do know will I hope help
> quell some of the rampant unfounded rumors running now.
>
> Sorry for the long windyness all.
>
> Jer
>
>
>
> On 7/15/2013 4:55 AM, Bruce . wrote:
>>
>> Why is IFI concealing the identity of this person?  If a lawsuit was
>> filed, his name is probably already in the public domain.  Ostracism
>> can be a powerful force.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The policy is prominent on the IFI subscription page. It's a public site
>>> whatever you post becomes property of the public domain. By posting you
>>> are
>>> in express agreement to abide by IFI policies. It so states up front and
>>> in
>>> many places. I've suggested to Glenn he include a legal agreement button
>>> or
>>> box on the subscription page reading something like, "I've read
>>> understand
>>> and agree to, bla, bla, bla,." We've seen them on almost any site we,
>>> sign
>>> onto, download from, etc.
>>>
>>> The problem here however seems to be a disgruntled individual with enough
>>> money and a lawyer with poor enough ethics to file malicious suits
>>> expressly
>>> to do harm. The term that comes to my mind is "malicious abuse of
>>> process."
>>> The legal system just HATES it when people play this game and that a
>>> lawyer
>>> is involved puts his shyster butt on the line in many ways, up to and
>>> including criminal action. From what I understand the disgruntled
>>> individual
>>> who's backing the game is not a lawyer nor representing himself. I really
>>> can't imagine a poor enough lawyer to think there's a chance in hell he'd
>>> make anything in contingency.
>>>
>>> Any IFI member or ex-member can request any or all of his/er material be
>>> removed from IFI and it'll be removed just as fast as practical, usually
>>> within a day. The guys are really busy so PMs, e-mails, requests,
>>> complaints, etc, may hang for a while before they can even read them.
>>> This
>>> guy's material was removed in toto at his first request, this further
>>> action
>>> is apparently just vengence.
>>>
>>> Jer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/14/2013 6:10 PM, CGRAF wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One thing we have done on a site that I help run is a written policy on
>>>> the site stating that all materials remain the sole property of the
>>>> author
>>>> and that they can remove the items themselves at any time of their
>>>> choosing.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Graf
>>>>
>>>> On 7/14/2013 7:50 PM, Ed Eccleston wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, if an author sends his own copyrighted material, of his own
>>>>> volition,
>>>>> to a basically public website, at any time he can effectively change
>>>>> his
>>>>> mind and make the website criminally liable for continuing to make said
>>>>> material available?  Just don't sound right in America.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
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Bruce
NJ