[TheForge] Anyone know why IForgeIron dot com is down?

Jerry Frost akfrosty at mtaonline.net
Mon Jul 15 12:19:08 EDT 2013


I can't say Bruce, Glenn and I are friends but I'm nothing like that 
kind of insider. Nobody is going to say anything to me about strategy, I 
don't think Glenn's looking to trash anyone, he just wants to be shut of 
this crap.

If the plaintiff's identity is public record ayone should be able to 
find out. The initial suit was filed in another country so I have zero 
idea about what is or isn't public information.

I have to try keeping a personal distance or I start losing it. It's an 
aspect of my TBI I"m afraid. Most of the brain damage was to  my left 
hemisphere so amongst other things my amygdala isn't in as good control 
as it used to be and I can really get going on a subject, right wrong or 
whatever. Language interpretation and production is left hemisphere too, 
so I not only may miss what someone means I don't communicate as well as 
I used to. My inner voice doesn't work like it used to either, 
somethings I find myself having inner dialogues about things that 
happened decades ago. Temporal sense is left hemisphere too so that's 
scrambled and I have to stop, think and compare to approximate dates, 
times and sometimes sequence of events. Temporal sense is also the main 
control for linear thinking which is a biggy. This crap is improving but 
it still causes problems. <sigh>

I sometimes find myself lost in a rant over such minor things as to mean 
nothing. I'm sad to say I blew a gasket at you for no good reason Bruce. 
And what's worse I knew I shouldn't send it and sent it anyway. I've 
reread your posts and can't for the life of me figure out what you wrote 
that pissed me off so much, probably something long past that just 
boiled up then. I wish I could take it back or undo it but what's done 
is done and I really have to work at moving on. Right now in fact I have 
to work to NOT get back into a rant OR beating myself up for a few days.

Yeah, you've probably guessed it, I've been reading up on the brain, 
strokes and TBI.

Anyway, I don't dare get too involved in IFI's troubles or I'll find 
myself ranting nonstop to no purpose and probably making things worse. 
Heck, I shouldn't've started making these update posts but avoiding my 
issues isn't going to help me overcome them. Passing on what I do know 
will I hope help quell some of the rampant unfounded rumors running now.

Sorry for the long windyness all.

Jer


On 7/15/2013 4:55 AM, Bruce . wrote:
> Why is IFI concealing the identity of this person?  If a lawsuit was
> filed, his name is probably already in the public domain.  Ostracism
> can be a powerful force.
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:
>> The policy is prominent on the IFI subscription page. It's a public site
>> whatever you post becomes property of the public domain. By posting you are
>> in express agreement to abide by IFI policies. It so states up front and in
>> many places. I've suggested to Glenn he include a legal agreement button or
>> box on the subscription page reading something like, "I've read understand
>> and agree to, bla, bla, bla,." We've seen them on almost any site we, sign
>> onto, download from, etc.
>>
>> The problem here however seems to be a disgruntled individual with enough
>> money and a lawyer with poor enough ethics to file malicious suits expressly
>> to do harm. The term that comes to my mind is "malicious abuse of process."
>> The legal system just HATES it when people play this game and that a lawyer
>> is involved puts his shyster butt on the line in many ways, up to and
>> including criminal action. From what I understand the disgruntled individual
>> who's backing the game is not a lawyer nor representing himself. I really
>> can't imagine a poor enough lawyer to think there's a chance in hell he'd
>> make anything in contingency.
>>
>> Any IFI member or ex-member can request any or all of his/er material be
>> removed from IFI and it'll be removed just as fast as practical, usually
>> within a day. The guys are really busy so PMs, e-mails, requests,
>> complaints, etc, may hang for a while before they can even read them. This
>> guy's material was removed in toto at his first request, this further action
>> is apparently just vengence.
>>
>> Jer
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/14/2013 6:10 PM, CGRAF wrote:
>>> One thing we have done on a site that I help run is a written policy on
>>> the site stating that all materials remain the sole property of the author
>>> and that they can remove the items themselves at any time of their choosing.
>>>
>>> Mike Graf
>>>
>>> On 7/14/2013 7:50 PM, Ed Eccleston wrote:
>>>> So, if an author sends his own copyrighted material, of his own volition,
>>>> to a basically public website, at any time he can effectively change his
>>>> mind and make the website criminally liable for continuing to make said
>>>> material available?  Just don't sound right in America.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>



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