[TheForge] Power in its diverse manifestations. OT Thorium

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

On Jan 12, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Bruce . wrote:

Yes, the video is by Kirk Sorensen.

Okay, gang.  It's off-topic, but how do we get Congress to get off it's
collective ass and do something with this?

The politics of inflexible extremism has congress bolted firmly in paralysis.
Huge vested interests speak with big money for the status quo.
Just because it's reasonable , advantageous and even practical, doesn't mean....

I wonder why emerging nations aren't going that route?

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:

> Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors (LFTR) should have and could have been
> online 42 years ago.  The concept was proven in the 60s at Oak Ridge where
> the prototype ran for 4 years and was promptly shelved when the
> shit-for-brains DoD learned it would produce no weapons-grade materials.
> 
> That we have commercialized breeders to produce weapons-grade fissile
> material is a good indication of how hopelessly stupid and insanely corrupt
> some people are.
> 
> One of the great thing about LFTRs is they will burn any and all nuclear
> wastes.  Burning uranium is idiotic, given its rarity.  Thorium is
> everywhere, it cannot be made into a thermonuclear weapon, it is inherently
> safe because the reaction is self limiting.
> 
> The ultimate waste product is Plutonium 238, which cannot be used to make
> bombs.  It is, however, the perfect power source for space probes and as it
> turns out, we are just about out of it.
> 
> All that high level waste from death holes like Hanford, Savannah River,
> Rocky Flats, etc. could be burned SAFELY down into Pu238 - we have tens of
> thousands of years worth of nearly limitless energy reserves in all of that
> poison.
> 
> Speaking of safety, LFTRs operate at atmospheric pressure, obviating the
> need for a containment structure.  The reactors run a high temperature
> molten salt core that is plugged with solid salt that is kept congealed by
> a jet of cold air.  If the facility loses power, the air blast is halted,
> the plug melts, and the molten core drains into a separate tank and the
> reaction stops.
> 
> There is more to it, but I would have to go back to my notes and am too
> lazy.
> 
> LFTRs appear to hold few disadvantages.  About 1/3 pound of thorium
> contains all the energy the average person will use in his entire life time
> including powering motor vehicles.
> 
> Is the video by Kirk Sorensen?  If not, look him up.  He gives a good
> presentation.
> 
> 
> On 1/10/2013 10:41 AM, CGRAF wrote:
> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**feature=player_embedded&v=**uK367T7h6ZY<http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uK367T7h6ZY>
>> 
>> This was sent tome by my son.
>> 
>> It sounds too good,but then again so did fossil fuels,when the wood and
>> whale oil started to run out, same for electric power distribution at
>> one time.
>> 
>> I do not have the nads for parsing this one. My guess is that someone
>> here does.
>> 
>> Mike Graf
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