[TheForge] opinions please, 2 Qs

Jerry Frost akfrosty at mtaonline.net
Fri Apr 12 17:20:04 EDT 2013


Pete, it wasn't an analysys as much as just my memory running. I haven't 
driven past your piece of Cal. in I don't recall how long, 99 I think maybe. 
I've driven 1 a few times since moving to AK, maybe 4 times but I've never 
put boots on the ground there. Close maybe but probably not within many 
miles.

As I recall the geology on the western face in your general neighborhood is 
quake fractured whatever the stone. Even stabilizing techniques pose 
hazards. I'd need to do some drilling and sampling to pose even rudimentary 
methods. I'd be scared to consider doing water packers at all but it'd 
probably be a useful test. No! Don't do water packers!

I'd say the toe of your face is being washed by the Pacific and will fail 
eventually, whenever that is, it's sure as death and taxes. Making a corner 
stable eough to take a little power hammer action isn't an unreasonable 
expectation. I'm thinking your judgement in when to use it would be more 
important than any foundation or slope stabilization design I could suggest, 
even with a good subsoil report in hand. And YEAH, I still have friends I 
can consult. I don't know if any of the Caltrans guys would remember me but 
there is one guy in FHWA who would if he hasn't retired.

I'll see if I can drum anyone up who has first hand info or even field or 
submitted reports/recomendations/ etc. I think I'll do some searching and 
see what's what.

Jer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net>
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Subject: Re: [TheForge] opinions please, 2 Qs


> Good analysis Jerry!
> What i fear here is water percolating down through fractured rock
> to a slanted clay layer below.
> The vulnerable slope's toe is completely gone on 2 of the 4 sides of us, 
> though we are solider than talus...i think.
>



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