[TheForge] filling pipe with sand to bend

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

 Cool Jerry.
But by gosh, you are talking about really big cable!
I tried it once with 1 1/2" copper pipe, trying for too small a radius over an inadequate form,
with just 1" cable...and the result was ugly.

On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Jerry Frost wrote:

It'll work but like anything there are up sides and down sides. Leave a 
little weep hole in the plugs or you can get a steam explosion, even if you 
believe the sand is dry, hygroscopic moisture drives off at temps above 
230f.

Another method that seems to be really successful is to thread  a cable 
through the pipe and using a winch, hand power or a couple D-9 dozers draw 
the pipe over a mandrel with the desired radius. If you use cable of a close 
match diameter wise distortion will be minimal to not at all. Loggers just 
bend pipe over a tree stump with good results.

Jer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Gladish" <anjgladish at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 6:35 AM
Subject: [TheForge] filling pipe with sand to bend


> Has anyone out there tried this?
> I've got a curved schedule 10 1 1/4" nominal railing that needs a
> transition piece between two sections- this will be a curve that changes
> direction by 15 deg. in about 11". (that's a 42" radius)
> 
> I'd have to bend it around a form or make some wooden dies and use a 
> press,
> but if it's hot it seems like it would distort unless the dies are shaped
> just right.
> 
> I'm worried about distortion if I roll it cold OR hot....
> 
> Then after it's done it needs to get to a brushed finish- will muriatic
> acid do that, or is it better to try to do it cold so there's less 
> cleanup?
> Or perhaps I can just grind and sand it clean?
> 
> Thanks for any ideas!
> 
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