[TheForge] why are people be being required to pay obscene USD to download blacksmithing articles?

[Bruce .]

Well, I wrote that article, and if anyone is gonna collect money on
it, it had better be ME.

I've emailed the NJBA directors about this.  Thanks for the heads-up, Terry.

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
> I agree it is all poo, but it is well within their right to charge
> whatever they please.  If there is some numb but willing to shell out
> $119 to subscribe to a service that provides public information, then
> good for those who can reel 'em in. I will not, however, be one of them. :)
>
> On 6/25/2012 8:11 PM, Ben Barrett wrote:
>> I agree that this docstoc site deserves a servere anti-promotion,
>> but I thought private services were in fact free to (allowed to) charge
>> service fees for the service they provide... then their advertising
>> promotes their content more-so than the good and valid free public-domain
>> sources.  Free as in speech, not free as in beer.
>> I see that same semi-abuse in for-pay mobile apps that repackage free
>> content into a "new mobile format", and I think that the best we can do
>> within our subject area is to avidly promote all the good and free sources
>> among our chapters, regional site's archives, increase cross-site links,
>> etc.
>> Maybe some regional and local orgs can help each other with optimizing web
>> content for modern search engine standards (it has changed since the 90's,
>> haha), or ABANA itself could help gather such resources for the many
>> webmasters and content creators among its membership.  I'm no SEO expert
>> but I could help a bit or maybe 1/2 byte.  :)
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:59 PM, terry l. ridder<terrylr at blauedonau.com>wrote:
>>
>>> hello;
>>>
>>> i decided to search for the peter ross abana 1998 speech and the google
>>> search turned up a rather questionable site.
>>>
>>> i may actually have this speech squirreled away on a different computer
>>> that i can get to at the moment.
>>>
>>> took a look at:
>>>
>>> http://www.docstoc.com/docs/27976206/New-Jersey-Blacksmiths-Newsletter
>>>
>>> MABA Newsletter Index - January
>>> January 1998 to October 2009
>>> http://www.docstoc.com/Docs/Document-Detail-14.aspx?doc_id=35700868
>>>
>>> New Jersey Blacksmith Association Application Form
>>> http://www.docstoc.com/docs/107616050/New-Jersey-Blacksmith-Association
>>>
>>> i serious doubt all the above documents are in the public domain.
>>>
>>> i have serious issues with docstoc.com charging obscene membership fees
>>> just to download any of these documents.
>>>
>>> <begin quote>
>>> Get access to:Premium Documents
>>> Select Your Plan
>>> 12-Month Membership ($119.40 billed in full, once every twelve months)
>>> $9.95/month was $28.50/month
>>>   3-Month Membership ($44.85  billed in full, once every three months)
>>> $14.95/month was $42.95/month
>>>   Monthly Membership ($19.95  billed in full, once every month)
>>>   $19.95/month was $56.95/month
>>> <end   quote>
>>>
>>> i find this offensive to the original authors of the articles. to have
>>> their work hijacked by this site for an obscene membership fee.
>>>
>>> --
>>> terry l. ridder><>
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Bruce
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