[TheForge] why are people be being required to pay obscene USD to download blacksmithing articles?

[Gabriel Cain]

Barring an agreement with the author of those works, that site has no 
legal standing to sell (access to) those works.  Unless they have the 
copyright/a license to it them, they're engaging in willful infringement 
for profit.  Tsk. Tsk.

The thing to do would be to contact the authors directly and let them 
know this site is using their work without their consent.  And if that's 
the case, that's a pretty straight forward claim to smack them down with 
Copyright Law.

Yuck.

IANAL.

-Gabriel

On 6/25/12 5:11 PM, Ben Barrett wrote:
> I agree that this docstoc site deserves a servere anti-promotion,
> but I thought private services were in fact free to (allowed to) charge
> service fees for the service they provide... then their advertising
> promotes their content more-so than the good and valid free public-domain
> sources.  Free as in speech, not free as in beer.
> I see that same semi-abuse in for-pay mobile apps that repackage free
> content into a "new mobile format", and I think that the best we can do
> within our subject area is to avidly promote all the good and free sources
> among our chapters, regional site's archives, increase cross-site links,
> etc.
> Maybe some regional and local orgs can help each other with optimizing web
> content for modern search engine standards (it has changed since the 90's,
> haha), or ABANA itself could help gather such resources for the many
> webmasters and content creators among its membership.  I'm no SEO expert
> but I could help a bit or maybe 1/2 byte.  :)
>
> Ben
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:59 PM, terry l. ridder<terrylr at blauedonau.com>wrote:
>
>> hello;
>>
>> i decided to search for the peter ross abana 1998 speech and the google
>> search turned up a rather questionable site.
>>
>> i may actually have this speech squirreled away on a different computer
>> that i can get to at the moment.
>>
>> took a look at:
>>
>> http://www.docstoc.com/docs/27976206/New-Jersey-Blacksmiths-Newsletter
>>
>> MABA Newsletter Index - January
>> January 1998 to October 2009
>> http://www.docstoc.com/Docs/Document-Detail-14.aspx?doc_id=35700868
>>
>> New Jersey Blacksmith Association Application Form
>> http://www.docstoc.com/docs/107616050/New-Jersey-Blacksmith-Association
>>
>> i serious doubt all the above documents are in the public domain.
>>
>> i have serious issues with docstoc.com charging obscene membership fees
>> just to download any of these documents.
>>
>> <begin quote>
>> Get access to:Premium Documents
>> Select Your Plan
>> 12-Month Membership ($119.40 billed in full, once every twelve months)
>> $9.95/month was $28.50/month
>>   3-Month Membership ($44.85  billed in full, once every three months)
>> $14.95/month was $42.95/month
>>   Monthly Membership ($19.95  billed in full, once every month)
>>   $19.95/month was $56.95/month
>> <end   quote>
>>
>> i find this offensive to the original authors of the articles. to have
>> their work hijacked by this site for an obscene membership fee.
>>
>> --
>> terry l. ridder><>
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