[TheForge] OT - sometimes stuff just happens
Jerry Frost
akfrosty at mtaonline.net
Thu Apr 12 18:26:19 EDT 2012
Bummer about losing the bird. The men who fought these babies used torque to
assist in combat manouvers. Torque effects were a large part of pilot
training. I love the discovery channel, I just don't take anything as
"correct and accurate." I remember a "How it works" episode that informed us
a farrier uses lead nails to affix horse shoes so they can be bent easily.
Keep your salt shaker handy.
Jer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT - sometimes stuff just happens
> Oh, and speaking of stoopid pilot trix, there is a small airport in NJ I
> used to fly into - Robbinsville. One pilot had a P-51D - beautiful, if
> a bit high-strung. One day some Texan d00d flies in, sees the Mustang
> and offers to buy it. Owner says "no". In those days they went for
> about $150K, give or take. Tex offers him $400K cash on the barrel
> head. Sold.
>
> After transfer, Tex gets in to take it home. Mind you, although being
> an experienced pilot, he had ZERO time in WWII vintage warbirds - no
> check ride, no nothing. This proved to be a serious error in judgment,
> if "judgement" can even be said to have applied. He fired the baby up,
> taxied to the active, throttle up, roll, rotate, and then proceeded to
> fly over Route 130, invert, and go face first into the farmer's field.
> Pilot dead - no big loss to gene pool. Mustang destroyed. Big loss.
>
> What the overly confident rocket surgeon did not know is that 1400 hp
> driving an 8 or 9 ft diameter metal prop assembly weight perhaps a good
> 600 pounds applies a whole lot of torque for which the pilot must apply
> a stiff amount of right aileron on order to keep the bird level until it
> gains enough speed that the wings can do their jobs. If you punch the
> throttle forward while on the ground it is possible to flip the plane
> over on its back. That is why one *gently* eases the throttle forward
> on those canaries.
>
> With that much torque the plane flipped over *very* quickly such that
> Tex had no time to correct. He was dead before he knew it. Moral of
> the story: hubris and piloting are a very bad combination.
>
> On 4/10/2012 11:53 PM, Jerry Frost wrote:
>> I seen to recall you telling us of some of the practical aspects of
>> flying
>> under bridges. I think the best lesson any pilot can learn early on is,
>> "Takeoff is optional."
>>
>> Jer
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrew Vida"<osan at netlabs.net>
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"<theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT - sometimes stuff just happens
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/10/2012 12:11 PM, Ron Childers wrote:
>>>> Andy, you must have received your wings a long time ago....
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh yeah. Last time I was in the left seat was 1987. In fact, I'm not
>>> even sure where the license is anymore...
>>>
>>> When I was living in Vancouver I used to hang out at Evergreen airport
>>> with some of the regulars. The FARs are so thick I am not sure I'd even
>>> enjoy flying anymore. I suspect farting in the cockpit would be a
>>> violation worthy of some large fine or prison sentence. FAA has been
>>> working tirelessly to end civil aviation and they seem to be winning.
>>> Airports are disappearing and just a few years ago there were fewer and
>>> fewer new pilots coming online. It is disgusting and very discouraging.
>>>
>>> Some of the stupid things we did in aircraft would get us shot down or
>>> sent to prison these days. It's pathetic.
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>
>>
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