[TheForge] now Japanese nuke plants OT: POL:

[peter fels]

On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:

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> 
> James Binnion wrote:
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:47 AM, peter fels wrote:
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>>> That's changing, both in the cost and efficiency of solar cells
>>> etc,
>> Alternative energy sources aren't even close by orders of magnitude
>> yet, yes they are getting better but they still cannot compete in
>> scale or cost with petro or nuke.

Petro is a diminishing resource and a serious balance of payments problem.
 If you count  construction cost, waste disposal ,decommissioning, risk and cleanup in the nuke cost..
...it doesn't look so good.
> 
> A truth the nuts and twigs crowd flatly refuse to acknowledge.  If they 
> want to return to the stone age, I support them fully so long as they 
> leave the rest of us to live as we see fit.  Unfortunately, the 
> watermelon marxists seem ill-contented to  leave us alone.

Does the name calling make you feel better Andy?
What's a watermelon Marksist BTW?
The idea is, we have a serious problem and we need
 to start working on it real hard now,
while we still have the margin to do so.

>> 
>>> Also there is a vast amount of natural gas and methane hydrate if
>>> we can somehow sequester the CO2.
>> 
>> This is probably easier than making solar or wind cary the load, but
>> still a huge engineering task.

That's what we are good at. We'll need all the solutions working for us.
> 
> 	And it is not "green", so what's the point - at least until the oil 
> spigots run dead-dry?

It's somewhat cleaner and we have a lot of it so we don't have to go further into debt to the Arabs.
The nat gas can act as a transitional fuel.
 Burning fossil fuels when we are going to need them as feedstocks is awful shortsighted.
>> 
>> James Binnion jbin at well.com
>> 
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