[TheForge] now Japanese nuke plants OT: POL:

peter fels artgawk at thegrid.net
Thu Mar 17 15:59:13 EDT 2011


On Mar 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Andrew Vida wrote:

> 
> 
> James Binnion wrote:
>> I agree with your thoughts on this. I don't see how we can avoid
>> nuclear power if we are to continue to try to support so many people
>> at the level of technology we currently have.
> 
> 	You may be right... maybe not.  I think our understanding of energy 
> systems is deplorably poor - stemming largely from the Newtonian view 
> that has dominated scientific thought these past several centuries.
> 
> Back when I was a physics student at UC Davis I remember thinking that 
> the fact that we say the subatomic world is paradoxical and really makes 
> no clear sense is an indication of our lack of understanding - the flaw 
> in our abstract modeling and the language we use to discuss it, rather 
> than some "fault" in the way things are put together, which sometimes 
> came up as an implied assertion in the context of discourse.  That, of 
> course, would seem ridiculous on its face.
> 
> My point here is that rather than taking the path of enlightened self 
> interest, we have worked tirelessly to preserve the status quo.  We can 
> thank government and corporate interference and the rise of rigged 
> markets for most of this, the painfully poor quality of public education 
> for the rest.  Stealing via taxation is immoral and criminal in any 
> context, but if you are going to do it, why not at least devote those 
> countless sums to research that may one day bear some quantum advances 
> in the energy sciences rather than sending troops to murder people 
> halfway across the globe?

All good, except...How are you going to fund quality public education and research without...
" Stealing via taxation"?
> 
> Someone's interests are served with all of this.  I am just not sure 
> whose it is.

It's the best government money can buy. Wince.
>> 
>> Thank goodness I don't have any roosters as I hate getting up early.
> 
> 	Ours start in around 3AM.  I finally resigned myself to never again 
> being able to sleep a decent night's rest.

Forged steel chicken gags!
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