[TheForge] now Japanese nuke plants OT: POL:

[Jason Nass]

To sum up my feelings on this a post from a friend...

"A 41 year old nuclear reactor gets hit by a magnitude 8.9 earthquake, then
slammed with a 30 foot tsunami, followed by an explosion caused by a build
up of hydrogen gas that blew the roof off of the building, and the core is
intact and contained. I'm sorry, who exactly thinks that nuclear power isn't
safe?"

More people die from coal mining and oil drilling every year, than have EVER
died from nuclear power... shouldn't we shut down those tech's first?

Jason Nass - MacTalis Ironworks
me at wargoth.com


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Subject: Re: [TheForge] now Japanese nuke plants OT: POL:

Seems you've summed it up about right to me Jim.
I do believe that until there is a convincing system in place 
to safely and economically deal with decommissioning and the spent fuel
stockpiles;
Not to mention places like Hanford...
That future nuke plants are a foolish proposition.

I have a great affection for technology,
and believe research should go forward on all fronts..
But........


On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:20 PM, James Binnion wrote:

> Peter,
> 
> I know that Diablo Cyn should probably not have been built there but this
is the kind of compromise power companies make that I was alluding to.  Just
because there is a group of faults in CA does not mean that you can't build
a safe fission plant there, it is probably not economically viable to do it
with the types of reactors that are currently in use for power generation
but that does not mean it can't be done. With that said I am not certain
that there has been a "safe" commercial fission power plant built in the US.
The Navy is just barely able to do so and they can exert a level of
oversight and control on its contractors and operators that civilian power
companies can't even come close to. And yes I know there are problems with
the military contractors and oversight issues. However when the
commissioning crew is going to have to ride, sleep, eat and live within 100
feet of the reactor core they tend to watch what the yard guys are doing
rather closely. 
> 
> The newest generation of power reactor designs use gas moderated cores and
are theoretically not able to melt down because they don't rely on water to
cool and transfer power from the core. But none of them have been built in
the US as we have had an unofficial moratorium on new nuclear power plants
for 25 years now. I would be very happy to see the pressurized water
reactors go away but as long as fossil fuels are available and cheap we will
not be driven to build new safer fission plants. 
> 
> 
> James Binnion
> jbin at well.com
> 
> 
> 
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