[TheForge] Auto darkening ?

Paul N crosspein at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jun 6 06:07:46 EDT 2011


D'oh!




On Jun 5, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Dave Mudge <dave at magichammer.net> wrote:

> Paul, you DID say helmet in line 11..................  :-)
> dave m
> 
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Paul N <crosspein at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> My opinions and experiences (And I'm not a pro welder. Took some
>> Community College classes, probably weld with electricity about 2-3
>> times/month at most)
>> 
>> The major differences are reaction speed and position of the sensors.
>> 
>> The best ones are much faster, and have more sensors.
>> 
>> Reaction peed should be obvious. You get more of a flash before the lens
>> darkens, and you're blinded for a spit second. (I've been told there
>> isn't UV danger, only the discomfort of the brightness)
>> 
>> As for the sensors, consider this example:
>> If you only have a sensor at the top of the visor, and your hand is in
>> the way, the helmet may not react.
>> 
>> I don't think the real cheapo's have a battery. They are entirely
>> "solar" operated. That slows reaction further.
>> 
>> Other features you're going to want:
>> Replaceable head web and sweat band.
>> Replaceable outer shield glass
>> Replaceable batteries
>> A nicety for many of us is a slide in adapter for a diopter lens.
>> Otherwise you can duck tape one inside the lens (I almost said "helmet")
>> 
>> I used a HF mask in a pinch not too long ago. It didn't provide as much
>> coverage around the neck/chin area, and the reflected light off my neck
>> into the shield reduced my visibility through the lens.
>> 
>> There's my nickel's worth.
>> **Paul
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/3/11 2:10 PM, Ron Childers wrote:
>>> The important thing to me is: will the guts of the auto darkening
>>> feature perform as well as the more expensive Hobart, etc? I used an
>>> el-cheapo HF last week and it seemed to work fine,,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of peter fels
>>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 1:43 PM
>>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Auto darkening helmet
>>> 
>>> When we get down to citing harbor Fright as an authority...
>>> it's time to quit!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2011, at 6:27 AM, woolley wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 6/3/2011 8:56 AM, Saint Phlip wrote:
>>>>> hel*met  (hlmt)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/auto-darkening-welding-helmet-with-racing-s
>>> tripe-design-67854.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200305009_200305009
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmmm. All of these look like they fit definition 1d:
>>>>> 
>>>>> d. A head covering, such as a balaclava, that is shaped like a
>>> helmet.
>>>> 
>>> 
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