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[Bruce Freeman]

Andy -- install a "coalescing filter" between the well head and the
regulator.  This will condense the liquids and filter out any
particles.  Liquids or solids in your regulator can lock the poppet
valve open, passing full well pressure downstream.  Even if you don't
use a regulator, this shit can foul a valve or orifice.

All it is is a filter element in a bowl, with the plumbing "backwards"
-- the input is to the outside of the filter element and the output is
from the center of the element.  Just be careful to get a bowl rated
for the max pressure you might encounter.  A metal bowl is less
convenient than a transparent one, but may be a lot safer.  If you use
a transparent one, make sure it has a perforated metal guard on the
outside to contain any rupture.

Let me know if you want me to watch locally for such a device, but you
might do as well over ebay, or even by making it yourself from
plumbing parts.  Use a big enough "bowl" to catch a lot of shit before
you need drain it, and be sure to have a drain cock for draining.  The
liquid you catch, of course, is flammable and may be burned for light
or heat -- but not indoors.  It's of too unknown a chemistry to trust
its safety for indoor use.

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:41 PM, peter fels <artgawk at thegrid.net> wrote:
> If it's raw NG, then it may be "Natural Gas Liquids" which supports a whole refinery industry and is a byproduct of NG wells. NG is extensively processed in most cases, i read.
> Gee, with free NG, you shouldn't be be buying electricity..ideally selling it.
> There are light industrial NG generators on the market.. FSYS makes NG conversion kits for  gas engines thru at least one of their subsidiaries....I think they are the biggest, but there is competition.
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Andrew Vida wrote:
>
>> Liquid on the hand.  Black.  Oily.
>>
>> On 7/30/2011 3:45 PM, Bruce Freeman wrote:
>>> This black stuff was what -- liquid?  gas?  smoke?  Very unclear in
>>> your message.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking some corrosion of metal -- maybe an iron sulfide, which
>>> is likely dark-colored or black.  It would be solid, or perhaps
>>> dissolved in water.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Andrew Vida<osan at netlabs.net>  wrote:
>>>> I crave salt.  I have eaten it out of the box since I was about three
>>>> years old.  My BP has been a steady 128/60 since I was perhaps 14.
>>>>
>>>> So much for scholarly research and the ability to reach truthful
>>>> conclusions.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of blacksmithing, I have a question:  we have two gas lines
>>>> from wells on our property.  The low pressure line was leaking at the
>>>> meter so I removed it and put a new ball valve (even 20# issuing forth
>>>> from a 2" line is impressive) on.  I thought this was the line feeding
>>>> the house, but apparently it is the 35# line.  Anyhow, when I uncorked
>>>> the line, which apparently has been laying inactive for decades, a huge
>>>> plume of black... *something* came bursting forth.  I had to wait a good
>>>> 15 minutes before it cleared enough to attempt screwing in the new valve
>>>> such that the skin on my forearm was not blasted to bleeding.
>>>>
>>>> I have been cracking the valve ever few days in the hopes of clearing
>>>> the crap out of the line.  My question is what is this stuff and how in
>>>> hell did it get in there?  It looks like black oxide, but there seems to
>>>> be some black liquid in there as well that deposits on one's hand if put
>>>> in the stream.
>>>>
>>>> Since I have unlimited free natural gas, I plan one of these days to
>>>> build up a distribution tree atop this valve and have one hell of a set
>>>> of gas forges.
>>>>
>>>> Also, anyone know of anyone manufacturing NG fired generators?
>>>>
>>>> On 7/30/2011 2:15 AM, peter fels wrote:
>>>>> As Bruce says ,you can croak from lack of table salt..processed or not. Our blood is a bit of the sea we carry with us and if it gets out of adjustment, we have problems.
>>>>> Salt never has had other nutritional value, though there are a number of different salts we need or make.
>>>>> The BP problems are probably caused by a complex of issues.
>>>>>
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