[TheForge] Forge welding...The unfortunate truth

[peter fels]

This whole preceding discussion is fatuous posturing and extremely deceptive.
It's a fabricated veil, drawn to protect the entrenched fabricating industry.
The unromantic reality is that almost all modern blacksmith joinery for some years,
Has been accomplished using pop rivets and crazy glue.
All too often, crazy glue has been used to affix cheaply purchased, Chinese pseudo-arc welder beads, used
 to cover the glue joints.
The massive lobbying efforts of the  world wide pop-rivet monopoly has successfully suppressed the disheartening  truth.

I'm sorry to tell you this...but the truth must out!

Forge welding? Hah!!!

You'll thank me when you are older....pf

On Jul 26, 2011, at 3:54 PM, williamsiron at comcast.net wrote:

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> I've used borax, boric acid, a mix of the two, clean/dry quartz sand, EZ weld and several others from Superior Flux in Cleveland, Ohio, a mix of boric acid and either black or red iron oxide and a flux made by Russell Colvin. Depending on your metal, the fire and your experience, each one works well. The down side of borax is that after the welding is done, you need to clean all the excess flux off the piece. The now anhydrous borax will absorb water from the air and turn white. Then your finely crafted piece will have white streaks and your customer will have questions. 
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> Mark Williams 
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> Snow Hill, Maryland 
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> Are there any ways to forge weld without borax? I've heard that mud dobber nests make good flux, when crushed finely. Any ideas? also, where can one find borax cheaply? 
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