[TheForge] looking for a chart

[peter fels]

Saint Francis said to find a tool steel  you liked, and stick with it.
He has passed on now , so we can dispense with that safely.

On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Dave Mudge wrote:

> Thanks Peter,
> I do know, but I am working in a small rural machine shop where the
> boss thinks that every application of needing a hardened or tough
> steel can be filled with 4140
> Actually I think that he doesn't know of any other steel. So, on the
> gentle path of enlightenment, I will find many other steels and specs,
> and applications and bring them into the light (along with info on
> each type).
> d
> 
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:52 AM, peter fels <artgawk at thegrid.net> wrote:
>> Used to be that most any of the big steel outfits would shower you with that sort of stuff
>> if you admitted any interest. I'm sure it's online now.
>> http://www.admiralsteel.com/
>> Perhaps you need to decide just how technical you'd like to get about it.
>> http://www.keytometals.com/
>> It's easy to line your shelves with fat volumes that are a life time of reading, and head scratching.
>> Do you have a temperature controlled heat treating oven to use?
>> Temperature indicating markers?
>> Or are you just faking it like i do?
>> As i write this i'm going through my related bookmarks and finding most of them are empty slots now.
>> This is different names for the same specs
>> http://www.varcoprecision.com/tools.htm
>> Anvilfire.com used to have a giant list of metalworking links...a Junkyard steels list.
>> If you want to fuss with HSS steel or some of the other high alloy stuff...You will want to get technical.
>> If your interest is in literal Junkyard steels, then you are pretty much guessing at the alloy,
>> and rules of thumb apply.
>> Forge out a little rod of the material...quench it, polish and run a temper spread by color..quench again and start breaking it off.
>> Or there's the "filosophic method"
>> Anvilfire has a bunch of material on that i think. And Iforgeiron probably has by now too.
>> Wouldn't be surprised if ABANA itself doesn't.
>> With a spark test, a magnet, some temperature crayons and even one of those surprisingly cheap
>> IR temperature guns...You can usually get by, mostly.
>> If you are going to sink a lot of time into a tool..then you'll want to buy new steel and they will give you the heat treat specs.
>> But you already know this Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Dave Mudge wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a chart named "Junk Yard Steels" and it does a good job of
>>> identifying objects that one may find in a junk yard or just about
>>> anywhere and naming what steel they are probably made of.
>>> 
>>> What I am looking for is a printable chart of different steels and
>>> their characteristics and perhaps their hardening processes.
>>> Any information would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> dave m
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