[TheForge] Garlic & Olive oil, again

[peter fels]

That describes my intent pretty much.
We have fair to middling salt loading here and the rains should be here in a few months.
I'll set it up and we'll see ina bout a year

On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Bruce Freeman wrote:

> Well, I certainly cannot think of any off hand.
> 
> Both garlic and olive oil are complex mixtures, so the chemistry could
> be quite simple or extremely complex.  The presence of the iron ions
> further complicates the mess, as these can catalyze reactions.  Olive
> oil is a (poor) drying oil.  Garlic has lots of compounds in it that
> could conceivable interact in some way with the oil to affect the
> chemistry.  I'm not exactly sure what this coating is supposed to do
> that is different from, say, a hot oil treatment.
> 
> I would suggest using a minimally scientific approach in your tests,
> such as the following:
> 
> * Use a single piece of rusty metal, homogenous throughout.
> * Cut several pieces of this metal for testing, each about the same
> size as the next.
> * Reserve one or more as a control -- do nothing to these, and store
> them out of harm's way.
> * Treat one or more with the garlic - olive oil prep'n.
> * Treat one or more with a garlic - vegetable oil prep'n made as above.
> * Treat one or more with olive oil alone
> * Treat one or more with vegetable oil alone.
> * Treat one or more with garlic alone (don't as me how!)
> 
> You get the idea.  You try to isolate different agents to determine
> which have what effect.  You keep an untreated control.  You test the
> two ingredients separately (if practicable).  You use vegetable oil as
> a control on olive oil to see whether there's something special about
> the latter (which is much more expensive).  Obviously, there are
> infinite number of other possibilities you could check.
> 
> How you set up the experiment depends upon how long each test takes,
> how much it costs, and exactly what you're trying to find out.  When
> you think you're getting a desirable result, repeat that test to help
> ensure it's not a fluke.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:35 PM, peter fels <artgawk at thegrid.net> wrote:
>> Bruce;
>> Can you think of a chemical reason  why the proposed garlic and olive oil finish should stabilize rusty steel effectively?
>> I just got the ingredients to repeat the experiment..or make a lot of salad dressing...we shall see.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bruce
> NJ
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