[TheForge] Forge welding

[peter fels]

I think it's a Japanese tradition..dramatic and fairly effective.
Probably more heat loss than wire brushing.
Adjusting the amount of oxy in your forge is probably the place to start though.

On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Garrick Peterson wrote:

> On a note somewhat related to this (limiting scale while working
> metal), I was just recently introduced to the concept of "wet forging"
> as a method of reducing the scale while working metal. At first, I
> discounted it as an unknown quantity of hooey, but googling for the
> term does give a fair number of examples (most pointing to swordmaking
> as it's ancestry).
> 
> Can anybody here speak to the efficacy of this method? It would seem
> better at cooling down the surface metal than doing anything to the
> scale. And surface scale would seem better handled by a grinder these
> days.
> 
> -Garrick
> 
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:
>> Yeah and the laundry borax cakes quickly enough I'd think they'd find
>> something effective if any is added at all.
>> Jer
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>>> 
>>> Chuck I don't doubt there is some discernible difference between high
>>> purity anhydrous sodium borate and laundry additive grade sodium borate
>>> decahydrate as a flux.  But my understanding is if they add an ingredient
>>> to a product it must be in the MSDS. Did they at one time add an anti
>>> caking additive,  possibly, but every MD SDS I have seen for it lists just
>>> sodium borate decahydrate
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Chuck Robinson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Since the borax is not USP grade I doubt it is chemically pure but the
>>>> impurities are also not listed in the MSDS sheet, as long as they are
>>>> not dangerous, toxic or carcinogenic.
>>>> I'm not an expert on the subject.
>>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> James Binnion
>>> jbin at well.com
>>> 
>>> 
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