[TheForge] lawyers and hold harmless ( was Re: anyone know of a disabled person wanting to take up blacksmithing?

[Shawn Bennett]

Just got the Mail Delivery Subsystem again.  If anyone else isn't having
this problem sending an e-mail to Mr. Ridder for me, I would appreciate it
if you could forward the message for me.  Thanks.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Shawn Bennett
<shawn.bennett09 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Mr. Ridder,
>
> If it is possible, I'd like to be able to send you a more private e-mail,
> that wouldn't be viewed by the entire Blacksmithing List, or to speak with
> you personally.  More to "plead my case" than anything else if you are still
> interested in your offer.  I would normally have no problem posting it in
> the List, but I've been extreemly frank in my letter and I don't feel it's
> appropriate on such a mass scale.
>
> I tried to send it to terrylr at blauedonau.com but the server tells me:
> "the message was...rejected by the recipient domain" and "E-mail from
> gmail.com is REJECTED on account of spam and network abuse. Now bugger
> off!  (state 13)."
>
> I thought that was funny.
>
> Shawn Bennett
>
>   On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:45 PM, terry l. ridder <terrylr at blauedonau.com
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Andrew Vida wrote:
>>
>> > Well, I'm good and crazy, so you can send it all here.
>> >
>> > As for your lawyers, WTF?  What in god's green acre could they be all
>> > nervous nellie about helping some poor bastard with some tooling?
>> >
>>
>> they site countless frivolous lawsuits filed against donors of a vast
>> list of items that the party receiving the donation was either
>> alledgedly injured by or in someway harmed. many donors settle to avoid
>> long drawn out legal fees. other donors battle it out and eventually win
>> in the courts but lose financially because of the legal costs of
>> defending themself in the courts.
>>
>> since many of the items i made myself or repaired myself, they are
>> concerned about "product liability".
>>
>> the lawyers consider "hold warmless agreements" a complete and total
>> waste of paper and time.
>>
>> they do not want to see me end up in more legal nightmares.
>>
>> >
>> > If nothing else, you can always have the recipient sign a
>> release/waiver.
>> >
>> > Jesus tapdancing christ... what a world.
>> >
>> > BTW, I was being somewhat facetious in asking my question.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> terry l. ridder ><>
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