[TheForge] oil/wax finish, blackened steel

[peter fels & phoebe palmer]

On 10/27/2010 1:35 PM, mike shpeley wrote:
> > From what I understand Jerry, is that back in the good old days of real wrought
> iron there was not the carbon in the iron so rust was not a real problem.
> Apparently
Pure iron rusts, tho slower than carbon steel. The silicon slag in 
wrought provided a lot of the rust resistance.
> Sam Yellin provided a contract to apply a clear finish to his work every year.
> For my personal outside hardware, I have just been wire brushing the  scale off
> every summer and reapplying my Tung oil finish. Works.  It really pains me to
> cover up some detail work that I am proud of with 3 coats of paint. Cheapens it
> somehow.
If you've gotta come back every year, might as well use Penetrol or even 
Future floor wax..both build up a bit after a few years,  , probably 
won't need annual coats...and are cheaper.
The traditional beeswax, turps and linseed oil is pretty enduring when 
maintained too.
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jerry Frost<akfrosty at mtaonline.net>
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> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 12:01:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] oil/wax finish, blackened steel
>
> Bealer wasn't really a blacksmith, he was a crafts author trying to save
> what he thought was a fading craft. I agree, the finish has inconsistent
> results, some things have been hanging in our weather for more than a decade
> without a tint of rust and other things have needed refinishing quickly.
>
> Of course we could use the traditional wrought iron finish and paint it.
>
> Jer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mike shpeley"<willowforge at yahoo.ca>
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"<theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 4:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] oil/wax finish, blackened steel
>
>
>> Just want to say I was not that happy with the Bealer finish on craft work
>> and
>> furniture I was selling so found this one. On here I think. Since I have
>> gotten
>> good results with it on inside work, I should share it.   Behr Tung Oil
>> Finish.
>> Available at Home Depot up here in the great white north.
>> It gets a shiny  charcoal colour on a tumbled and wire wheeled piece.
>> Some
>> pieces that have to be 6 or 7 years since applied are still looking good
>> after
>> being mauled by the tourists.  It is designed to be used on wood but
>> sticks like
>> glue to iron.  I also noticed that it comes off easy with lacquer thinner
>> and
>> another coat can be applied  over an existing one. The coats need to be
>> applied
>> thin. Says it contains some linseed oil along with petroleum  distillates
>> and a
>> UV inhibitor so  I have used the latex gloves to apply. Will dry
>> completely in
>> one day if left in the sun. I suspect it is a form of varnish because it
>> can be
>> wiped clean with a damp cloth.
>>
>> Am Inspired here to test some charcoal dust in it to darken it more but
>> leery of
>> upsetting the chemical balance.   It figures that the modern chemistry
>> should
>> be able
>>
>> to come up with something  superior in a finish than something used a
>> hundred
>> years ago.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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