[TheForge] Slack tank...POL OT

[peter fels & phoebe palmer]

On 12/19/2010 2:04 PM, Craig Schaefer wrote:
> Slowing/stopping foreign oil imports is a great idea, but should be
> performed by individuals at their level and not by government economic
> policies.   Oil consumption will decrease as it's expense to produce and
> deliver goes up.   Just leave the market alone and we'll run out and switch
> to something else.
If the US waits that long we will be very broke and in a really nasty pinch.
Look how well the magic of the market worked  on the last 2 market crashes.
Look how well it did during the last energy crunch and the one before that.
Look how well it did  consequent to  bush's deregulation.
> Already wind turbines have begun to slow the earths rotation.
> Did I read that somewhere or make it up?
Hey! Longer days! Who could argue!
> CraigS
> Gresham, OR
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter fels&  phoebe palmer"<artgawk at thegrid.net>
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> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Slack tank...POL OT
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>> There are thousands of scientists involved with this problem.
>> In any group of thousands, you are sure to find fools, cheats, screw-ups
>> and dissenters.
>> You found some. Big deal.
>> Scientists are trained to question and challenge all viewpoints put
>> forward..they are supposed to do that.
>> As to following the money...that, in theory applies less to legit
>> science than in most other areas...in theory.
>> Obviously, the really  big money influence here, ( trillions!) ,comes
>> down on the anti-global warming side!
>>
>> Even if the GW theory is wrong......
>> Are you really opposed to stopping the economic hemorrhage of our
>> foreign oil imports?
>>
>> On 12/19/2010 8:26 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
>>> Mike Linn wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html#ixzz0fWrHldg3
>>>>
>>> This is a riot.  Mr. SCientist himself pretty well admits to either
>>> fraud or gross incompetence, yet those in seats of power would turn the
>>> world on its ear based on his "research".  OK.
>>>
>>> This part is precious:
>>>
>>> "Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom
>>> of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant
>>> papers."
>>>
>>> If it looks like a lie, walks like a lie, and quacks like a lie, it is
>>> probably not the truth.
>>>
>>> Jones is doing the two-step to keep himself out of prison for all his
>>> legs will carry him.  Let us not be naive beyond the limits of even the
>>> most profound stupidity.
>>>
>>> One thing people who so readily accept the GW deal seem to fail to do is
>>> examine the non-trivial litany of interests that so clearly conflict
>>> with those of the rest of the world.  Follow the money.  Always follow
>>> the money.
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