[TheForge] Slack tank...POL OT

Craig Schaefer craig.schaefer at frontier.com
Sun Dec 19 17:04:10 EST 2010


Slowing/stopping foreign oil imports is a great idea, but should be 
performed by individuals at their level and not by government economic 
policies.   Oil consumption will decrease as it's expense to produce and 
deliver goes up.   Just leave the market alone and we'll run out and switch 
to something else.
Already wind turbines have begun to slow the earths rotation.
Did I read that somewhere or make it up?

CraigS
Gresham, OR


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> There are thousands of scientists involved with this problem.
> In any group of thousands, you are sure to find fools, cheats, screw-ups
> and dissenters.
> You found some. Big deal.
> Scientists are trained to question and challenge all viewpoints put
> forward..they are supposed to do that.
> As to following the money...that, in theory applies less to legit
> science than in most other areas...in theory.
> Obviously, the really  big money influence here, ( trillions!) ,comes
> down on the anti-global warming side!
>
> Even if the GW theory is wrong......
> Are you really opposed to stopping the economic hemorrhage of our
> foreign oil imports?
>
> On 12/19/2010 8:26 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
>>
>> Mike Linn wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html#ixzz0fWrHldg3
>>>
>> This is a riot.  Mr. SCientist himself pretty well admits to either
>> fraud or gross incompetence, yet those in seats of power would turn the
>> world on its ear based on his "research".  OK.
>>
>> This part is precious:
>>
>> "Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom
>> of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant
>> papers."
>>
>> If it looks like a lie, walks like a lie, and quacks like a lie, it is
>> probably not the truth.
>>
>> Jones is doing the two-step to keep himself out of prison for all his
>> legs will carry him.  Let us not be naive beyond the limits of even the
>> most profound stupidity.
>>
>> One thing people who so readily accept the GW deal seem to fail to do is
>> examine the non-trivial litany of interests that so clearly conflict
>> with those of the rest of the world.  Follow the money.  Always follow
>> the money.
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