[TheForge] OT: Goats and Uisge

[Saint Phlip]

Andy, much as I hate to say it, this situation is entirely your fault.
You screwed up, big time.

You took a farm animal and made him completely unafraid of you, while
leaving him the weapons necessary to do you injury. You then let him
believe he was in a challenge for alpha control- something that is
very important to herd and pack animals, because their standing in the
herd or the pack is what allows them to breed. You're basically in a
pissing contest with your goat, for the right to breed the does.

At this point, there's not much you can do with him. He is a danger to
every male, and very possibly every human being he's in close contact
with. He needs either to be treated like any other dangerous animal,
and only handled with the utmost care, with someone outside the pen if
someone needs to be inside the pen, or he needs to be destroyed. If
that animal hurts or kills someone, that will be entirely your fault.

Am I being harsh? No. You're the one who lost your temper, and let him
feel that he was in a dominance challenge with you, and had a chance
to win. The banging up you gave him he merely considers collateral
damage, on his way to lead the flock. The reason humans farm animals,
and animals don't farm humans, is because most humans use their
brains, and in this situation, you didn't. Instead you lost your
temper, and gave him the choice of venue.

Face up to it and deal with it Andy.


On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
>
>
> Larry Brown wrote:
>> Andy
>> I don't think Ed is your friend anymore.
>
>        YOu think?  He's 200# and now has an attitude.  I used to be able to
> intimidate him into behaving almost properly, but as he has gotten older
> (now 3+) he has come into his own, so to speak, and no longer
> fears/respects me.  Once he started in with trying to hook me, I started
> in with beating the motherfucker with a 2x4 or one of my 20# digging
> bars.  I should have just let things alone, but for whatever reason that
> behavior got me boiling mad.  He almost took my right eye out back in
> June or July.  Orbit still hurts a little where the horn hit.  Dunno if
> he was trying to hurt me then or just being playful, but the behavior
> has just gotten worse by the week, so he has to go.  Much as I hate him
> at times, I still don't want him to have a bad fate.  A good home with
> plenty of girls to chase.
>
>  >When I lived in WV, the guys down
>> the road who raised goats used the feisty  ones for pizza (Not bad tasting
>> either) before the goats used their remains for bedding. They said the goat
>> feels that someone has to win and will keep the challenge going
>> It will probably be hard to find him a good home
>
> Some neighbors want to buy him as a breeder.  I can't say I like those
> people - real trash IMO - but they may be the only answer.  Ed is a
> tough case, though I don't know how he would behave with other people.
> I'm sure much of this is the grudge with me and the "competition" to
> which you refer.  He's often trying me.  Prick.
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Saint Phlip

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Heat it up
Hit it hard
Repent as necessary.

Priorities:

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