[TheForge] More on knife gluing

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

Andy Gladish wrote:
> I don't know nothin about nothin.
> Except perhaps that the more knives I make the less I want to trust glues as 
> much more than fillers, leaning towards using heavy mastic to keep out water 
> from between handle and steel, and depending on mostly riveting for the 
> attachment.
Inclined to agree.
..I do love the look of a rivetless scale handle, but 
until I
> figure out a way to make a physical attachment it doesn't seem practical.
If the butt cap/pommel and the hilt  overlap the wood 
fore and aft, that ought to hold scales in place.
> If you could get the end user to keep the knife oiled and never soak it in 
> water, what a world that would be.
Water soak is ok if oil/grease soaks into the dry wood 
every now and then.
Someone here ( was it Bill?) had a method where they 
would fill a pipe with urethane, submerge the wood..cap 
the pipe and pull a strong vacuume through a cap fitting 
for a few days.
When the wood came out..no more rotting.
> 
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> From: "Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:18 AM
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>> When i worked in the fishmarket...the knives that showed
>> almost no deterioration ( save for sharpening) was the
>> long thin knife used on lox ( oily smoked salmon bellies)
>> and the knives in the poultry section. Same with beef
>> butcher's knives it seemed to me.
>> So, maybe fat is the answer? A suet insert?
>> The tradition was to rebuild the blade furniture every
>> now and then, over many years.
>> Some traditional blades, and sculptures for that matter,
>> were designed to be broken down for maintenance. That's
>> the classy way to go i imagine.
>> But you know all this.
>>
>> Andy Gladish wrote:
>>> Precisely.
>>> The challenge is to make something that gets better with age and use, 
>>> like a
>>> fine musical instrument.
>>> Almost all resins seem to deteriorate.
>>>
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>>> From: "Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net>
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>>>> While it's very nifty stuff for glass..bonds between
>>>> silicon and both metal and wood, deteriorate with time
>>>> and exposure.
>>>>
>>>
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