[TheForge] New engine OT:

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

OK..sigh..i was wrong there cause i assumed that this comment referred 
to the earlier linked  Quasiturbine ...sigh and Duh again...pf
I'm disqualified.

Peter Hirst wrote:
> Don't know what you mean by ythe "moving link".  The force of the explosion 
> is exerted on the pistons more or less at a tangent to the orbit of 
> rotation:exactly where it is most efficient.  In the Wankel, the net force 
> was at an angle to that tangent, forcing the cam of the rotor hard against 
> the cylinder wall, which is what caused all that wear.  Here, apparently, 
> the force is approximately parallel to the cylinder wall, allowing the 
> piston to float on its rings as in a conventional piston engine.
> 
> Note also that the rpm measurements are misleading:  the piston/rotor 
> assemblies have to each be making two revolutions to get 16 firings one out 
> of one rev of the crank.  The Crank may only be going at 850 rpm, but those 
> two assemblies have to be doing 1700.  And with four stops and starts per.
> 
> Still, I I don't think friction  or vibration is  the problem.  I think the 
> problem is ignition.  Iit has not yet been fired as an internal combustion 
> engine.  In all  the test videos it seems to  run only as a compressed air 
> motor.
> 
> OK, so now why am I wrong here?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net>
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 4:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] New engine OT:
> 
> 
>> Glancing at the site last nite..Looks like the complex joint between the
>> links would be a real friction,wear/lube problem. It would also suffer
>> the same seals problem that plagued the Wankel ( which was also pretty
>> small).
>> Looking at where the force of the  explosion is exerted on the moving
>> link...it intuitively seems indirect and inefficient. Why am i wrong here?
>>
>> Jerry Frost wrote:
>>> Heck Mike, the one you'd need a hand truck for is over
>>> 800HP. A 25HP model would fit in your pocket, okay
>>> fanny pack. According to the official site (Hype?) a
>>> MYT engine with the same power output as a typical SUV
>>> engine is the size of an alternator.
>>>
>>> Put a double rotor on it and it will compress air, pump
>>> fluids, etc.
>>>
>>> Pretty cool
>>> -------------------------------
>>> If it ain't forged
>>> it ain't real.
>>> Wrought iron is.
>>> The FrostWorks
>>>
>>> Meadow Lakes, AK.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Mike Spencer" <mspencer at tallships.ca>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dang! Now *that* would be nice for my big hammer.  I
>>>> could bring it
>>>> indoors on a hand-truck when it rains.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Michael Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada
>>>> .~.
>>>>
>>>> /V\
>>>> mspencer at tallships.ca
>>>> /( )\
>>>> http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/
>>>> ^^-^^
>>>>
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