[TheForge] Grants?

[Jonathan Barnhart]

Seeing as you are trying to help the disabled and I'm not disabled, there's no way that I could ask for any sort of help from you.  I could never take away from a program that was meant to help the disabled when I'm still very able bodied and working a job already.  Thank you for your time and your input and God bless your endeavor.  Hopefully you'll get things worked out and will be able to help many deserving people.




--- On Fri, 3/6/09, terry l. ridder <terrylr at blauedonau.com> wrote:

> From: terry l. ridder <terrylr at blauedonau.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Grants?
> To: blakkpawss at yahoo.com, "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 2:51 PM
> hello;
> 
> On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Jonathan Barnhart wrote:
> 
> >
> > I've been trying for a long time to set up a shop,
> but something
> > always happens financially to keep me from moving
> forward.  Someone
> >
> 
> i know that feeling all too well. thankfully that is no
> longer the case.
> 
> >
> > suggested that i should start looking for grants.  I
> tried looking
> > around on the net and so far they mostly seem to be
> for non profit
> > organizations. Does anyone here have any experience
> with grants and
> > if so is there any such thing as grants for individual
> artists these
> > days?
> >
> 
> i have learned a lot about grants in the past three months.
> not from
> applying for them but all about the legal and tax
> implications of
> grants. i am still in the process of setting up a
> foundation that will
> be helping disabled people develop their talents in
> metalworking or
> other artistic/folk art/craft areas. currently the help the
> foundation
> is giving is called 'gifts' to the person or
> organization receiving the
> help. the maximum 'gift' is $10,000.00 usd per
> year. this is the federal
> irs maximum limit on gifts before the 'gift tax'
> comes into play. there
> are reasons to call the help being given 'gifts'
> because some types of
> grants are considered taxable income. my goal is to help
> people not
> place them in a position where the help causes them to pay
> federal
> income tax on the help. this year's 'gifts'
> have all ready been given
> out. this year's 'gifts' were given to people
> that i know of either
> through the va medical healthcare system or local
> community.
> 
> currently there is no way to apply for the foundations
> help. the logic
> being that if you apply for the help it is no longer a
> 'gift' and starts
> to smell like a 'grant'. i hope that the accountant
> and the lawyers can
> eventually get everything straightened out. i am hoping
> sooner rather
> than later.
> 
> the help the foundation is offering to people is not so
> much to start a
> business or even purchase a business it is to help that
> person develop
> their talents in metalworking or other artistic/folk
> art/craft areas so
> that they have a feeling of purpose in life and that they
> do have
> something to contribute to family, neighborhood, church,
> etc.
> 
> far too many disabled people are in the situation where
> they are not
> employed, may never be employed and are not given the
> opportunity to
> thrive and bloom in a hands on learning environment. they
> do not have
> the financial resources to pay for classes. they do not
> have the
> necessary transportation to get to classes. they do not
> have a home
> setting where they are able to have a craft room or metal
> shop. this is
> what the foundation is attempting to address.
> 
> in some ways setting up the foundation is frustrating. you
> soon realize
> that no matter how much help you provide it will never be
> enough. you
> also realize that there are those out in the real world who
> are
> professional 'victims' . they know the system so
> well that they play the
> system for everything that they are able to get. they are
> the ones that
> feel that i owe them something and that they are entitled
> to help from
> the foundation no matter what. those people drain resources
> and the
> desire to even try to help.
> 
> anyway if you want contact me off list.
> 
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> terry l. ridder ><>