[TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 62, Issue 12
Peter Hirst
saltydog335 at aol.com
Thu Mar 5 17:07:53 EST 2009
Far away from where?
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> To answr the questions people raised. Nah.. Wouldn't be acetylene. It's
> just a small bbq tank running.
> What's the consideration of the hoses? As far as air, I've got a squirrel
> blower vented outside quite close by. I've also got a ceiling vent and
> keep the door open to the hallway. I managed to make spark after and not
> die so no leaks thus far ;-) I used soapy water on the joints before I lit
> it up.
> I'd love to have someone come take a look but you are all so far away!
> Sadly.
>
> ~Karen~
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> 1. Re: Copper tags (Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer)
> 2. Re: Beautiful tool (Larry Brown)
> 3. Re: forge smells (jim poulmas)
> 4. Re: forging contest (Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer)
> 5. Re: Copper tags (PlumDon at aol.com)
> 6. Fw: Blacksmith Leon Piwoni Passes (Mark and Sylvia Mondloch)
> 7. Re: Copper tags (Bruce Freeman)
> 8. Re: forge smells (TOOL GYPSY)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:44:38 -0800
> From: Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer <artgawk at thegrid.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Copper tags
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> Don, how many solutions would you like to consider?
> What tools are at your disposal?
> What's your time VS money value set?
> Is this a one time proposition?
> And so on...grin..pf
>
> PlumDon at aol.com wrote:
>> Looking for some about 1" round copper tags numbered 1-400 to attach to a
>> collection of anvils and stakes. I would like to attach them with
>> something like
>> 3M high bond double sided adhesive tape so dont need holes. I could go
>> with
>> brass but would prefer copper aesthetically. I also could number them
>> myself
>> if necessary. Also would prefer not to pay any thing like $1 apiece for
>> them.
>>
>> Any suggstions much appreciated and thanks for any help.
>>
>> Don Plummer
>> Plummer Design Works
>> 392 Hallman Mill Road
>> Phoenixville, PA 19460
>> 610-495-5058
>> Plumdon at aol.com
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> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:31:53 -0500
> From: Larry Brown <lp.brown at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Beautiful tool
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> Bruce don't you have one of those too?
> I don't think my wife would see eye to eye with me on keeping one of these
> around, even if I try to explain that the model is really a tool...
> Larry
>>I love the shot of his model (see
>>http://www.markfejes.com/portfolio/current/index.html) with mask, boots,
>>and nothing else, leg up on the anvil.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:26:41 -0500
> From: jim poulmas <poulmas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] forge smells
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> I'm not sure what your experience is here and I can't really tell from an
> email so....
>
> You need to have some way to vent the forge. From your email - you
> mentioned
> stuff hanging in the air - the image I have is of you in an enclosed
> space.
> Bad. Very bad. You need a way to move the fumes.
>
> You're gonna get something of a smell on a new forge but I'd try and get
> someone who is an experienced smith or metalworker to guide you through
> it.
> That's your best bet.
>
> Not to mention there are various things you need to keep track of in terms
> of how you situate your hoses and which valves to shut on and off and in
> what order.
>
> Err on the side of caution.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Lucky7Steel <lucky7steel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well..
>> i accidentally started up my forge for the first time today. :-)
>> i hooked up the tanks and checked for leaks but the valve on the tank
>> was open!! Thus...i figured i'd best light the thing!
>>
>> No one died.
>>
>> However....
>>
>> there was a lot of smoke! Not smoke as much as....stuff hanging in the
>> air. It didn't smell like Propane thank -god. Is it just the smell of
>> the bricks and some black paint being as it's the first firing?
>>
>> I recognize the smell from a Smith's studio i took a class in.
>> i guess as long as i have the fan sucking air and air coming in ...
>> it's normal??
>>
>> ~Karen~
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> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:38:01 -0800
> From: Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer <artgawk at thegrid.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] forging contest
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> Freehand forging a corkscrew from tool steel bar is pretty darn
> challenging for me!...end up fiddling around with them endlessly. pf
>
> Zahn wrote:
>> I always like bottle openers and corkscrews. They can be judged on
>> functionality and ergonomics.
>>
>>> From: blcksmth at wcnet.org
>>> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
>>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:09:26 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] forging contest
>>>
>>> This is one I used several years ago at our local hammer-in. I
>>> prepared several pieces of 1" round cut 1.27" (I believe)long. This
>>> makes
>>> each piece 1 cubic inch in volume. The assigned task was to hammer each
>>> piece into a cube as accurately as possible. The only tools allowed were
>>> hammer and tongs and a pencil or some other marking device - no other
>>> measuring devices allowed. My intent with the marking device was that
>>> they
>>> would set the round on end at the corner of the anvil and mark a 1 inch
>>> square at the corner but no one used it - they just started hammering. I
>>> was
>>> not concerned about being exactly 1" cubed as much as the cube having
>>> equal
>>> sides and square corners.
>>>
>>> Be prepared for judging with calipers and a square. To determine the
>>> winner the final 2 were checked with a square and calipers and it was
>>> not an
>>> easy task to eliminate one of them to second place. As I remember the
>>> winner
>>> was within about .030" from having equal sides and very little out of
>>> square.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Willman
>>> Bowling Green, Ohio
>>> The Eagle's Anvil
>>> WB8NQW
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>>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dan tull
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:57 PM
>>> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net; The_Anvil at yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: [TheForge] forging contest
>>>
>>> Trying to come up w/ a contest for a conference. Needs to be less than
>>> 30
>>> mins.,and more objective than subjective. All skill levels. Forge welded
>>> rings, nails, RR spikes, and just plain drawing out for length have
>>> been
>>> done in the past. What do you think could be done w/ a min. of special
>>> tools?
>>>
>>>
>>> dan tull
>>> Georgia
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:55:33 EST
> From: PlumDon at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Copper tags
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> In a message dated 3/4/2009 10:45:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> artgawk at thegrid.net writes:
> how many solutions would you like to consider?
> What tools are at your disposal?
> What's your time VS money value set?
> Is this a one time proposition?
> And so on...grin..pf
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------
>
> I was hoping for a single solution whereby you make an on line purchase
> and
> later on someone sends you 400 1" round copper tags that are neatly
> stamped 1
> through 400. Alas, that may not be.
>
> Don Plummer
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> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:40:21 -0600
> From: "Mark and Sylvia Mondloch" <mondloch at silvercreekpottery.com>
> Subject: [TheForge] Fw: Blacksmith Leon Piwoni Passes
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> Sylvia and Mark Mondloch
> Silver Creek Pottery & Forge
> mondloch at silvercreekpottery.com
> www.silvercreekpottery.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Big Horn Forge Daniel Nauman" <bighorn at alexssa.net>
> To: "Bergman Bob" <postvilleblacksmith at tds.net>; "Mondloch Mark"
> <mondloch at silvercreekpottery.com>; <rob at sebastianpublishing.com>;
> <hammerguy at bellsouth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:35 AM
> Subject: Blacksmith Leon Piwoni Passes
>
>
>>
>> Greetings dear friends,
>>
>> I wish the forging community to know that Leon Piwoni, my friend, and
>> first forging teacher passed away March 1, 2009 at age 48 after a battle
>> with lung cancer. Leon was an avid student of Francis Whitaker. Leon
>> worked with Francis in Brasstown, NC on several occasions, as well as in
>> Francis' first Colorado shop in Aspen. Francis also demonstrated at
>> Leon's "Cedar Creek Forge" in Cedarburg, WI on three occasions in the
>> late
>> 70's and early 80's. Francis often said that he and Leon, double
>> striking, could forge out a pair of tongs faster than any other team.
>>
>> Through the efforts of Leon, Ruth Cook, and the late James B. English,
>> "Cedar Creek Forge" became a focalpoint in Wisconsin and the Midwest for
>> forging activities, holding annual conferences with folks as Francis,
>> Dimitri Gerakaris, Bruce LePage, and Alfred Habermann. At the 1984 ABANA
>> conference in De Pere, WI, Leon assisted Alfred in that ever memorable
>> night-time power hammer demo.
>>
>> If there was ever a man who could forge a perfect hook, it was Leon.
>> Many
>> of you might suggest that a lowly hook is nothing to brag about. My dear
>> friends, Leon's hooks were absolutely poetry. His command with a hammer
>> was addresses early in his life as at age 14, Leon could swing a 3#
>> hammer
>> with all the integrity of a pro. His work maintained hand-forged
>> elements, rarely if ever relying on power tools......which made him a
>> darling in Francis' eye. Beyond the retail work in the shop i.e.
>> fireplace tools, candle holders, hooks, , trivets and the like, hiis work
>> included commissioned railings, lighting, furniture and more. Many homes
>> and businesses in Cedarburg and beyond are home to Leon's ironwork.
>>
>> I took my very first forging class with Leon as my teacher in 1979. Leon
>> and Jim asked that I stay on to forge in exchange for knowledge. I
>> accepted the offer, and came to the shop often to help out with the job
>> at
>> hand. It was there, in an 1864 limestone buildig next to Cedar Creek,
>> that the stage was set for my career as a smith. Leon set the groundwork
>> for me as a smith. I, along with many others, will miss him.
>>
>> ........Dan Nauman
>>
>> Rob and/or Brian.....Please print this in the AR and/or the HB as many
>> fellow smiths knew Leon.
>>
>> Fellow smiths...My e-mail address book has been lost by my server. I am
>> missing a multitude of addresses. If you would be so kind, please
>> forward
>> this message to as many folks as possible so those who knew Leon will get
>> this message. Services will be held tomoorow Friday March 6, at the
>> St.Francis Borgia South Catholic Church, In Cedarburg at 6PM. In state
>> at
>> the chyrch at 4 pm, mass of Christian burial at 6 pm. See also
>> www.muellerfuneralhome.com
>>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:25:55 -0500
> From: Bruce Freeman <freemab222 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Copper tags
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> Don,
>
> Search the web or Thomas Reg. under "metal checks and tags." MSC has
> them (metal unspecified) for $1+ each, numbered up to 200.
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:08 PM, <PlumDon at aol.com> wrote:
>> Looking for some about 1" round copper tags numbered 1-400 to attach to a
>> collection of anvils and stakes. I would like to attach them with
>> something like
>> ?3M high bond double sided adhesive tape so dont need holes. I could go
>> with
>> brass but would prefer copper aesthetically. I also could number them
>> myself
>> if ?necessary. Also would prefer not to pay any thing like $1 apiece for
>> them.
>>
>> Any suggstions much appreciated and thanks for any help.
>>
>> Don Plummer
>> Plummer Design Works
>> 392 Hallman Mill ?Road
>> Phoenixville, PA ?19460
>> 610-495-5058
>> Plumdon at aol.com
>> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2
>> easy
>> steps!
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> working.
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:33:04 -0400
> From: TOOL GYPSY <toolgypsy at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] forge smells
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> ..stuff hanging in the
> air.
> Sounds like acetylene which is probably a bad idea,what kind of tank are
> you using???
>
> Paddy p
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