[TheForge] Speaking of shops...

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

Sorry;
I might add that certain types of concrete construction are much more 
vulnerable than others. I've seen some in Mexico Spain and Greece that 
was pretty terrifying....and other examples that are thousands of years 
old...pf

sos at frii.com wrote:
> I definitely agree. Not what I intended.
> 
>> It's reasonable to ask that the codes be met or exceeded in strength,
>> durability and so on.
>> But i sure do not want to be stuck with standardized design and methods.
>> We had to fight that out here and it was wildly expensive and time
>> consuming. We ended up with a creatively stultifying process and stupid,
>> wasteful, compromises. pf
>>
>> sos at frii.com wrote:
>>>> This post shows why codes are required.
>>>>
>>>> Wood framing is pretty forgiving.  It has what we call a "running
>>>> factor".
>>>>  When you hear it crack and see it deflect, you run.
>>>>
>>>> Messing around with structural concrete and structural steel framing is
>>>> dangerous.  Especially concrete!  When these structures fail, the
>>>> collapse
>>>> is immediate.  Just look at China where builders didn't follow codes.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> I agree. Either use established building methods, or get someone
>>> involved
>>> who actually knows something about the proposed construction method.
>>> Reliability and longevity are key factors in a building. They come from
>>> a
>>> long evolutionary history that a one-off, unique project cannot match.
>>>
>>> Steve
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