[TheForge] "Sea Kittens"??? OT

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

I have to agree;
The San Fernando Valley, which is mostly paved by now, had 16 to 20 feet 
of topsoil. What do we think we are gonna eat?
I've a  buddy who is a soils expert..and he doesn't see dirt the same 
way most of us do at all.
Failing to take decent care of their dirt has lead to the collapse of 
civilizations, arguably. Not to mention the dustbowl and what is going 
on here in Cal's wine country.

Andrew Vida wrote:
> What about dirt's rights?  We need dirt's rights NOW.  Just look how we 
> abuse dirt!  It's a sin.  SIN I say!
> 
> Jerry Frost wrote:
>> Uh huh. So, what or who set you up to decide animals 
>> have more right to live than plants? Hmmmm? I figure if 
>> we weren't supposed to eat them they wouldn't taste 
>> good and we'd be set up to process dirt and sunlight.
>>
>> Hey wait! Minerals must have just as much right to not 
>> live as we have to live. What right do we have to take 
>> poor innocent unassuming minerals and bring them to 
>> life without their consent? And what about inhibiting 
>> sunlight's right to free passage?
>>
>> We should just disappear, evil blights on EVERYTHING 
>> that we are.
>>
>> I have to laugh at the folk who claim our digestive 
>> system is more closely related to a goat than a 
>> carnivore. The look on their faces when I ask them 
>> where our other three stomachs are is priceless. Then 
>> they look at me with even more consufsion when I tell 
>> them they should crack a book and check out an omnivore 
>> like a bear or pig. I'd feel sorry for them if their 
>> vote didn't count as much as mine.
> 
> 	This has been the lame argument of the vegans for decades.  No offense 
> to any vegans out there, but the argument doesn't even rate as 
> laughable.  A study of carnivore gut anatomy usually shows a long 
> intestine (one notable exception being the domestic cat).  We, too, have 
> long ones.  This gets ignored.
> 
> 	I was a fairly strict vegetarian for about two years when I was at UC 
> Davis.  No meat.  I was very strong (rode 125 miles/day, 7 days/week in 
> the 8 month season) and felt pretty good the whole time.  On return to 
> NY I continued but soon began feeling poorly.  Kathy (gf @ time) 
> suggested we dump the veggie diet - we did, and I got to feeling much 
> better in short order.  Not calling veggies bad, but methinks it is not 
> for everyone.  As I am fond of saying to the point of people throwing 
> things at me, one size does NOT fit all.
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