[TheForge] Re: TheForge Digest, Vol 60, Issue 15
Johnny Motley
jwmotley at peoplepc.com
Sun Jan 4 17:51:08 EST 2009
Just my .02 here but whatever you mount your mailbox on it should break or
shear off if hit by an auto--- if not you could be legally SUED if personal
injury results. And in this day and time a lot of people are just looking
for that excuse anyway seems like.
JW Motley
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> 1. Re: Buzz Box Blues (Dan Brewer)
> 2. Re: Crush proof mailbox (PlumDon at aol.com)
> 3. Re: OT frozen pipes (ries)
> 4. Re: Crush proof mailbox (Mike Spencer)
> 5. Re: OT frozen pipes (schade at acegroup.cc)
> 6. Re: Crush proof mailbox (schade at acegroup.cc)
> 7. mail box (Allen Ortery)
> 8. Re: Crush proof mailbox (GRAF)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:23:34 -0800
> From: "Dan Brewer" <danqualman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Buzz Box Blues
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> A couple of drops of oil on the fan help keep teh fan motor quite also.
> Dan in Auburn
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Peter Hirst <saltydog335 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, its not that old. One of the few tools I have ever bought new, in
>> the mid 70's. But it is cool. A true classic, and the bargain of the
>> century I think. In fact, Lincoln is still making them. I saw one at
>> Lowes
>> that looks exactly like mine -- 225 A, AC only -- for 60 bucks more than
>> I
>> paid for mine in the early 70's.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> Keziah's
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>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer" <
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>> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Buzz Box Blues
>>
>>
>>
>> An old " tomb stone" buzz box? Cool...Wonderful machines.
>>> My vague recollection is that the windings slide up and down on rails
>>> which have to be clean and aligned parallel.
>>> When you take the case off it'll be evident. They are simple, durable
>>> machines.
>>> Ought to take the top off and vacuume them out every now and then
>>> anyway.
>>> Also worth taking apart any connection that isn't pristine and cleaning
>>> it
>>> to bright metal before reassembling it.
>>> Doubt you'll have any trouble....pf
>>>
>>> Peter Hirst wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a Lincoln buzz box that has served me well and faithfully for
>>>> over
>>>> 30 years, but has developed one mechanical problem. The amperage
>>>> selector
>>>> dial is suddenly really sticky. I have to crank it so hard to move it
>>>> that
>>>> it is almost impossible to stop it on the correct stop. I assume its
>>>> rust in
>>>> the stops, but am not sure how to get at it or what to lube it with, if
>>>> anything. Is there a way to free the thing up without opening it up?
>>>> Anything else I need to know before venturing into the buzz box?
>>>> Besides
>>>> unplugging it???!!!!
>>>>
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> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:17:15 EST
> From: PlumDon at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Crush proof mailbox
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> Some excellent ideas re the vandal proof mailbox. Kindest thanks. Still
> considering options.
>
> Got to thinking and wonder if you could make an acceptable one out of a
> segment of steel belted radial truck tire of proper dimension? Just put
> in a
> floor and door. Then mount it on a slightly stretched out auto coil
> spring in
> cement in the ground. I suppose if that was a good idea someone would
> have tried
> it by now.
>
> I have a 400' driveway and the box seems especially tempting
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> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 10:29:24 -0800
> From: ries <ries at riesniemi.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
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> I own a piece of land in the high desert, between Joshua Tree and Big
> Bear, up by Pioneertown- and the well driller there told me it would
> probably be 1800 to 3000 feet, judging by other wells he had drilled
> in the area. And something like $30,000, and that was way back in the
> early 90's.
> Needless to say, I dont have a well there.
> Just as well, really, as I have pretty much given up on ever building
> a place there, and, assuming the economy ever comes back, I am gonna
> sell it anyway.
> Some of my neighbors there have wells, most just have big 500 or 1000
> gallon galvanized tanks, and there is a water hauler you contract
> with, who fills your tank on an agreed upon schedule.
>
> Ries
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>
> I'm astounded!..Had no idea they went that deep for water...
> That means your well is well over 3000'?
> My last place had 5 hand dug wells on the property. Each one had a
> round brick wall about 6' across and was about 25 feet deep. It was
> funky surface water that got pretty salty on a dry year. That water
> ate pipes at an astounding rate.
> The ocean has washed it all away now.
>
> Andrew Vida wrote:
>> Shoot, I know people in AZ that have 4000 foot deep wells. Up in
>> Flagstaff 3000 feet is the minimum just to hit water.
>> My well produces only about 3gpm because of the column weight, which
>> should be about 1500#. I don't know the power rating on the pump...
>> probably 1hp. I'd rather have a 5hp, but $$$$. :( Maybe one day.
>> Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>>> 580'!! Wow! That's a deep hole and a strong pump. Gotta be expensive.
>>> If it eats copper i'd think you'd have to be extremely fastidious
>>> about your stainless. Might be worth thinking about sacrifice
>>> anodes maybe?..pf
>>>
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> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:41:33 -0400
> From: mspencer at tallships.ca (Mike Spencer)
> Subject: [TheForge] Re: Crush proof mailbox
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
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>
> My mailbox is 12ga ms sheet. The post is 1x2 solid bar, tapering at
> the top to ca. 1x1 where it supports the mail box and welded into 2"
> pipe where it goes into the ground. The box itself is supported both
> above and below.
>
> If you've tried to cold-form 12ga, you know it's slow. If a kid stood
> in the road and beat my box repeatedly with a baseball bat, he'd do it
> a little damage. With a single whack at 40 mph, he might make a
> sizable ding in it but at the expense of a painful and...umm,
> sanguinary surprise. I could repair any such ding in less time than
> the ER would spend fixing him up. As it happens, nobody has ever
> tried to whack it so there's never been a test of that assertion.
> Mail box bashing has never really caught on around here.
>
> If the snowplow hit the box, it it would ding it up pretty bad. If the
> plow hit the post dead on with the ground frozen, I suppose it would
> give the plow quite a jolt.
>
> If you want a photo of my mailbox, Don, I can send you one. Pretty
> obvious how it was made so you wouldn't need plans.
>
> Drifting off-topic here -- 40 years ago, the Canadian postal guys were
> pretty rigid about rural mail boxes meeting standard Canada Post
> specs. So nearly all mail boxes were fairly heavy galvanized steel
> and considerably larger than the standard US RFD box. Mine isn't the
> standard shape but I made it to the standard Canadian size. Something
> must have changed because over the last 20 years, most of the big
> Canada Post boxes have disappeared and been replaced by flimsy
> aluminum ones of the standard US Mail size. Just this fall, the
> neighbor across the road asked me to make a new post & mount for his
> shiny new box from Walmart so I got a close look at one. Purty and
> shiny but such an unbelievable POS that I was tempted to bash it with
> a crowbar myself. :-)
>
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada .~.
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> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:37:37 -0600
> From: schade at acegroup.cc
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
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> On Jan 4, 2009, at 12:29 PM, ries wrote:
>
>> I own a piece of land in the high desert, between Joshua Tree and Big
>> Bear, up by Pioneertown- and the well driller there told me it would
>> probably be 1800 to 3000 feet, judging by other wells he had drilled
>> in the area. And something like $30,000, and that was way back in the
>> early 90's.
>
> We put in a new well here in southeast Minnesota in 1986.
> Cost $11,000 then. Now around $20,000 I think.
>
>
>> assuming the economy ever comes back, I am gonna sell it anyway.
>
>
> Good luck on that.
>
>
>> Some of my neighbors there have wells, most just have big 500 or 1000
>> gallon galvanized tanks, and there is a water hauler you contract
>> with, who fills your tank on an agreed upon schedule.
>
> When we moved here in 1974 we couldn't afford to put in a well
> so we sealed up the old rain water cistern next to the house and
> had a local milk hauler bring us water (2300 gallon load) from the
> deep well at the creamery. Worked good. Have thought lately
> about setting the cistern up for roof water again.
>
> Bob
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:40:42 -0600
> From: schade at acegroup.cc
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Crush proof mailbox
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> On Jan 4, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Albin Drzewianowski wrote:
>
>> ON the other hand, since moving to Westminster, I have had my mailbox
>> "baseball batted" probably 6-8 times, maybe more. Lost count.
>>
>>
>
> We bought our place in 1974. It had been empty for about 25 years.
> No windows or other vandalism was done to the place (on a dead
> end gravel road) all that time (or since).
>
> Farm kids to busy to raise hell?
>
> Bob
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:49:47 -0600
> From: "Allen Ortery" <bluestoneforge at gmail.com>
> Subject: [TheForge] mail box
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
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> Had some one here cast his inside of a concrete pillar, found the
> vandals next time at hospital getting arm set. Mail box wins every
> time even the snow plows stay clear.
> Allen O
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:54:42 -0600
> From: GRAF <adveniam at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Crush proof mailbox
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>
> I can't remember whether your boxes where on the entering or leaving
> side of the road.
> Maybe they just figure having to leave the same way they came in
> wouldn't be prudent
>
> Happy New Year Bob
>
> Mike Graf.
>
>
> schade at acegroup.cc wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Albin Drzewianowski wrote:
>>
>>> ON the other hand, since moving to Westminster, I have had my mailbox
>>> "baseball batted" probably 6-8 times, maybe more. Lost count.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> We bought our place in 1974. It had been empty for about 25 years.
>> No windows or other vandalism was done to the place (on a dead
>> end gravel road) all that time (or since).
>>
>> Farm kids to busy to raise hell?
>>
>> Bob
>>
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