[TheForge] OT frozen pipes

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

Is that thickness or alloy Mike?

GRAF wrote:
> Making things worse some builders cheat and use type M on water lines. L 
> or K will serve much longer.
> 
> Mike Graf
> 
> Peter Hirst wrote:
>> What's eating your copper is acidic water:  can be treated with a 
>> filter tank.  A little pricey, but sometjhimes you can pick them up 
>> cheap to free from people switching over to municipal water from a 
>> well.  except for slight acid (my copper is just beginning to develop 
>> pinholes after 35 years) my well water is the best, and i wouldn't 
>> trade it for anything.  So I picked up a filter and will replace the 
>> copper piece by piece with good solid used stuff as I acquire it.  It 
>> will last a lifetime with the filter, and since I have so much exposed 
>> plumbing in the house, it is well worth it to me.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smucker" 
>> <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
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>>> Andy,
>>>
>>> How does copper work in your area?  I was always a fan of copper 
>>> until we moved here to Brasstown, NC.  With most of the well water in 
>>> this area, it eats copper -- so any of the plastics are better.  Dad 
>>> had the same problem when they moved to Boulder, CO.  Just check 
>>> around before you go to copper. The well drillers here are the ones 
>>> that told me to stay away from copper --  most of the hardware stores 
>>> here don't even carry it any more.  (and I had lots of copper 
>>> fittings on hand when I built this house.)
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:21 AM
>>> To: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at centurytel.net>; "Blacksmithing List 
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>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
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>>>> Sharkbite fittings are, as you say, pricey, but they really do 
>>>> work.  My plan for this house is to replace all the lousy PVC lines 
>>>> with copper and sharkbite fittings.  Those fittings will also work 
>>>> with PVC and any other rigid or semi-rigid tubing.  Very ingeniously 
>>>> contrived, BTW.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>> The Monday before Christmas we had the temps drop below zero with 
>>>>> high winds out of the West.  As a result, the pipes that run to our 
>>>>> laundry froze and burst.  That section of the house is just a crawl 
>>>>> space, so instead of opening up the hatch to gain access which 
>>>>> would have really flooded the space with cold air, I decided to 
>>>>> disconnect and cap that section at the source.  I got the Hot line 
>>>>> capped ok, but the shut off valve did not stop the flow completly 
>>>>> and let a steady drip through to the cold line. Because of the 
>>>>> dampness, I couldn't get the joint to take solder, so I decided to 
>>>>> use a compression fitting.  At the local farm store they didn't 
>>>>> have any compression fittings, but they had something called 
>>>>> SharkBite. It was a bit pricey but what option did I have?  So I 
>>>>> got it.  To my amazment, it worked as advertised, just clean the 
>>>>> end and slide the fitting on and you are done. So if you have to 
>>>>> make an emergency repair, the SharkBite connectors are a good choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>>
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