[TheForge] Pete's Dads Work

[ries]

Since he appears to be too bashful to post pics-
Here is a link to some of Pete's dads jewelry- it is, indeed, very cool.

http://www.broadwaterrosejewels.com/Example%20Pages/Example%20Matisse%20Renoir%20Page.htm

seems like it runs in the family, ehh?

Pete- why is the finish "lost" now?
Do you not know how he did it?
Does it use some no longer available product, or now frowned upon  
toxic technique?

ries



On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:

My father used to manufacture costume jewelry, mostly copper and later
enameled copper. ( Renoir and Matisse of California)
People were constantly writing in and swearing by the copper bracelets.
It embarrassed him terribly to have anything to do with quackery. But he
finally came to terms with it saying that, if believing in something
untrue made people feel better, who was he to argue? They never
mentioned it in their ads.
They had a wonderful baked on finish ( now lost) that prevented any
possible skin contact with the copper.
Many of the surviving pieces are still bright, now, 50 some years later.

Keziah's Forge wrote:
> Pure placebo IMHP
>
> Peter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Childers" <munlaw2 at hcsmail.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] ( bronze "silverware"
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>> I have heard for years that copper bracelets are good for relieving  
>> the
>> pain
>> of arthritis. Does anyone know of the bracelets actually working? A
>> trapeze
>> girl at the FSU circus used to swear by them.
>>
>> Thanx, Ron C
>>
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message-----
>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Binnion
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:04 PM
>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
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>> FWIW
>> Copper is an essential element for human health. Excessive amounts  
>> can
>> cause problems but current thoughts on this are excessive amounts are
>> in the 10-12 mg per day range. That is a lot of copper to get from
>> cookware or utensils.  You would have to probably get a hold of  
>> copper
>> sulfate or copper nitrate solutions and drink them to get that kind  
>> of
>> dose. If you put the utensils in a strong acid for a while and drank
>> the result you could dissolve enough to be a problem but weak acids
>> like are found in food are just not going to dissolve enough to be a
>> problem without really going out of your way to set up a toxic dose.
>>
>> see http://www.copperinfo.co.uk/health/
>>
>> James Binnion
>> jbin at well.com
>>
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